Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!news.e-liance.net!news.e-liance.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'patterns': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'language,': 0.12; 'builders': 0.16; 'factories': 0.16; 'fancy': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'apparently': 0.31; 'layer': 0.31; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'clear': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'flow': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'year.': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'smith': 0.68; 'discovered': 0.83 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 18:44:24 -0700 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: lambdak: multi-line lambda implementation in native Python References: <3d8068b3-7b63-43c0-bbf2-6111b2c73aa4@googlegroups.com> <87zj9kb2j0.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1421372680 news.xs4all.nl 2868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32988 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83846 On 01/15/2015 06:34 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > The ebb and flow of technology has recently brought me someplace I never > thought I'd be. Java-land. And what I've discovered is that factories > are so last year. Apparently builders are the new thing. It's never clear to me whether all these fancy design patterns are to make up for a deficient language, or whether some people just get their kicks from layer upon layer of abstraction. Certainly it's this sort of thing that turns me right off of Java.