Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: srinivas devaki Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Multiple Assignment a = b = c Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:30:21 +0530 Lines: 81 Message-ID: References: <56c33d48$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 8QQTF9XtLNQEta9zKCFyQg5vkhHs2W4H91S/yHvN/3Sw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'pop': 0.05; 'used.': 0.05; 'performs': 0.07; 'stack.': 0.07; 'works.': 0.07; 'underlying': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'anyway': 0.11; 'stack': 0.13; '+91': 0.15; 'variables': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'assignments': 0.16; 'evaluated.': 0.16; 'lhs': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'rhs': 0.16; 'stack;': 0.16; 'thank-you': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'copied': 0.18; 'duplicate': 0.18; 'student': 0.20; 'first,': 0.20; '"",': 0.22; '(a)': 0.22; 'assign': 0.22; 'junior': 0.22; 'code.': 0.23; 'feb': 0.23; 'references': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'import': 0.24; 'examples': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.27; 'right.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'object,': 0.27; 'translated': 0.27; 'values': 0.28; 'initialized': 0.29; 'lot.': 0.29; 'second,': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'push': 0.30; 'related': 0.32; 'compiled': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'operations.': 0.33; 'rule': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'except': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'lines': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'indian': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'names': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'no.': 0.62; 'school': 0.62; 'side': 0.62; 'further': 0.62; 'teach': 0.70; 'evaluate': 0.72; 'hand': 0.82; '(3rd': 0.84; 'doubts': 0.84; 'ph:': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cn2CNENbT92qR9anqmg2YUcnrbvIy5KT1L1m+y/m71o=; b=YAPeu0MgSD5PQtljSlv+kMQuFn3botuxpUQZrAMf5MoCVp7GUPCVkA7CGfFyK7HsVv /hTTa1EUu4SixujAJ7B+n6hvQUN7H8P6NHTdAIlpfwFW0zvYTmFvNCbqo7yoNH7sdrKO R/UgcnQLPqfCGlAdB39uc2iwc+no3kiv68U9/VTu9tIh6Q6171HLVjsTgcfuUYJJeaar 7Ae7Oe20OneP0H2tRMnYX+bveHAxyY8gfXc6e7Jz0mrKsJKeN0sS6S8z++3RhYqLYGdL Bg5Qu0U6wBUPVra+BLB8Np2FpCLbe5ibMgySH/EJhgmIgCUcjgHvX6a/JsikVLyYEwr0 R54w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cn2CNENbT92qR9anqmg2YUcnrbvIy5KT1L1m+y/m71o=; b=m1aM6RJK1FebzBqawcmJba23Z4byD6yeo+Uz8t3+0MFkGzILk+Otqpfs/7GDmdte8p VNQdtdtUS/1nIgSWnTR0bEJmcPv2chfpAYNzw0D/GzTQ+A5XeptGghMhCZ9zapibtJjm hlkbB3xiDc6N3B7nc1pE1/0acn2EYP7DqpNcICIiuriO5abZAnMSz+dNF4av+oygr+IT VCTp8hM3RIO26Xk0ombbFtQa+ofOizo5KJqlfhj7lH1R1UA09d0pp/ZEbt+hCbTX0gQn iEHZl7jrzNMNZ1IUGQjtPojkPWOLe58d7o+ceOfqshbKWKPjHELuHe1KBqWnH9UD4mLx Ku3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTIpptFpOvxQuAySyzJMbEEEmFjGW2qBOIt2zk27NQ7mZ43aHxSsB3+doMJl8ZZV8/s1sKlSqLcvJM3pA== X-Received: by 10.50.29.51 with SMTP id g19mr17291300igh.41.1455638460670; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:01:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56c33d48$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103017 On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote: > > First, the rhs is evaluated. > Second, the lhs is evaluated from left to right. Great, I will remember these two lines :) On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > _temp = c > a = _temp > b = _temp > del _temp > > > except the name "_temp" isn't actually used. > So it is like first right most expression is evaluated and then lhs is evaluated from left to right. > py> from dis import dis > py> code = compile("a = L[a] = x", "", "exec") > py> dis(code) > 1 0 LOAD_NAME 0 (x) > 3 DUP_TOP > 4 STORE_NAME 1 (a) > 7 LOAD_NAME 2 (L) > 10 LOAD_NAME 1 (a) > 13 STORE_SUBSCR > 14 LOAD_CONST 0 (None) > 17 RETURN_VALUE > > > Translated to English: > > - evaluate the expression `x` and push the result onto the stack; > > - duplicate the top value on the stack; > > - pop the top value off the stack and assign to name `a`; > > - evaluate the name `L`, and push the result onto the stack; > > - evaluate the name `a`, and push the result onto the stack; > > - call setattr with the top three items from the stack. > thank-you so much, for explaining how to find the underlying details. >> SO isn't it counter intuitive from all other python operations. >> like how we teach on how python performs a swap operation??? > > No. Let's look at the equivalent swap: > > In all cases, the same rule applies: > > - evaluate the right hand side from left-most to right-most, pushing the > values onto the stack; > > - perform assignments on the left hand side, from left-most to right-most. > uhh, i related it with swap because I was thinking variables are binded, like first of all for all lhs assignments get their references or names and then put the value of rhs in them. as `a` is a name, so the rhs reference is copied to the a `roots[a]` is a reference to an object, so it is initialized with the reference of rhs. anyway I got it, and all my further doubts are cleared from that compiled code. I tried some other examples and understood how it works. thanks a lot. -- Regards Srinivas Devaki Junior (3rd yr) student at Indian School of Mines,(IIT Dhanbad) Computer Science and Engineering Department ph: +91 9491 383 249 telegram_id: @eightnoteight