Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!bcyclone04.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone04.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:error': 0.03; 'continuation': 0.07; 'explicit': 0.07; 'skip:u 30': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'byte,': 0.16; 'character.': 0.16; 'codec': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:UTF': 0.16; 'surrogate': 0.16; 'index': 0.16; "python's": 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'byte': 0.24; 'tracker': 0.26; 'raise': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '"",': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'beginning': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'sequence': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'worth': 0.66; 'invalid': 0.68; 'hassle?': 0.84; 'improvement,': 0.84; 'pike': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L12Szrk2U2vw1vmHl1DU9ODtiR7etEw/21R2zSALF8Y=; b=GPIrj85Eg4uSkYaOtgUjSfgSJo+e3ZnnE9GWuCXPfu00nLx8qs2YeLxDgTJEnCQKLx H2wZzu/P/4oMuupASbQ8rFqhu2xlEoKvgmUKmih1nEFKJ/9Ejayvevr3i4wYHi5N9tWG gP0nzE1saVntsbgwTBd6jizJOkEGh4a2XWpnu9gim4/wfCmBuDKHoV1Ec4bo6guAh6fi /q0pT5uzULlY9urCZUEt2vVV/F6pBuA5bHwNuzMXLpWpMgbE0a0ElAm2sNfjGNL7ssS2 4AQ4/jM7J+UrSpEwgcziefE1zewhQdUWpLrsaFt+Eb3ZoZ0ZQLdwQehsyYd52ExX5rIy dEAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.128.219 with SMTP id k88mr41688495ioi.27.1425849328025; Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 08:15:27 +1100 Subject: Opaque error message on UTF-8 decode From: Chris Angelico To: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425849330 news.xs4all.nl 2893 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33140 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3699 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2422953406 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87161 >>> b"\xed\xb4\x80".decode() Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 0: invalid continuation byte But 0xED is not a continuation byte, it's a start byte. And it's a perfectly valid one: >>> b"\xed\x9f\xbf".decode() '\ud7ff' Pike is more explicit about what the problem is: > utf8_to_string("\xed\xb4\x80"); UTF-8 sequence beginning with 0xed 0xb4 at index 0 would decode to a UTF-16 surrogate character. Is this something where Python's error message could do with improvement, or is it not worth the hassle? Should I raise a tracker issue about this? ChrisA