Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python)': 0.05; 'say,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'referring': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'ben,': 0.16; 'claim,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'governor': 0.16; 'packaging.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'said.': 0.16; 'subject:packaging': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; "python's": 0.19; '(in': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.31; '(i.e.': 0.33; 'johnson': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'january': 0.37; '2008': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'supporting': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'office': 0.60; 'full': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'of:': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:Where': 0.84; 'rick': 0.93; 'political': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Where to learn current best Python packaging practices Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 13:37:04 +1100 References: <54ae0917$0$2738$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <54ae6715$0$12987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54af0564$0$2919$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <54af23bc$0$12995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UVTHoyt4P03jR6RrDTde7UqI8DE= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1420771112 news.xs4all.nl 2886 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40269 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83393 Rick Johnson writes: > On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:12:18 PM UTC-6, Ben Finney wrote: > > > That does not contradict the position that [python packaging] is an > > ornery beast full of hidden traps and compromises though; it just > > means that everything that came before it (in Python) is worse That's a mis-quoting of what I said. I was referring specifically to ‘pip’ there (i.e. that ‘pip’ is both an ornery beast, and that everything which came before it in Python is worse). I did not say, and do not claim, that for Python's packaging. > Ben, you've just proven the old truism of: > "When you're at the bottom, the only way you can go is up!" And you've just proven the truism that it is easy to interpret someone as supporting a position if you're willing to change what they actually wrote. -- \ “I call him Governor Bush because that's the only political | `\ office he's ever held legally.” —George Carlin, 2008 | _o__) | Ben Finney