Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'root': 0.05; 'that?': 0.05; 'steve': 0.09; 'default.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hayes': 0.16; 'itself,': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'password,': 0.16; 'sudo': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'installation': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'van': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'fedora': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'ubuntu': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'system.': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'remove': 0.60; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; 'discovered': 0.83; '2015': 0.84; 'subject:World': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=hgiYtarSW4wjbDubJTigWB4svXB/Fg6IKmXGyqGm6h4=; b=ujcKWGSyHMi/gLNQ6bFS8dHyxReL9Rx03p+r89KYoipu4ndDST+Bn8NtB7JBsQDBBf IkuksrgZebIY3u9VPb9PQtR43i5vAi/CxbvReGkiRbFm0vU/N6cWGtJr7tVAV2OliqF8 3XMRj+3Iko7+d/Pc42ir6pWa67VyTkpKyI0ta5y2h2uZ/bayyhvKo1oDt6cNl3H1l3aT iqVPYpMz9rta8WEapw9uU929ZN2o09uMQKeaBZ6m8AgL2q33ce7APLeeWCo4kUeeQN2T ezQe0gN/ognWfNXsPFDs5oVxPHzy3to8mGWRTrTd/z6ZHGiWx4CSJKXgtap+XZYXUqAO KqEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.134.39 with SMTP id i39mr10040781iod.53.1420737093960; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:11:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54ae7b75$0$15900$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 04:11:33 +1100 Subject: Re: Hello World From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1420737102 news.xs4all.nl 2871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35022 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83359 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 08 Jan 2015 12:43:33 GMT, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) > wrote: > >>I don't trust sudo because it is too complicated. >>(To the point that I removed it from my machine.) >>I do > > How do you do that? > > I avoided Ubuntu because it had sudo, and then discovered that Fedora had it > as well. Uhh, 'apt-get remove sudo'? That ought to work on any Debian-based system. With Debian itself, you get the option during installation of setting a root password, in which case it won't install sudo by default. ChrisA