Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:application': 0.07; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'ugly': 0.07; 'english,': 0.09; 'exist,': 0.09; 'polish': 0.09; 'things,': 0.09; 'windows,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; 'adam': 0.16; 'cli': 0.16; 'here).': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; '(you': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'communities': 0.26; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'easier': 0.31; 'programmers': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'explain': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'importantly,': 0.68; 'technology,': 0.70; 'industry': 0.73; '(np.': 0.84; '2015': 0.84; 'bardzo': 0.84; 'can\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.84; 'issues:': 0.84; 'jest': 0.84; 'polskim': 0.84; 'to:addr:adam': 0.84; 'jak': 0.91; 'lub': 0.91; 'przy': 0.91; 'period.': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZjQBcCPZ+dISBkxP6lpt+TTYcQkVATvdoS202v+19/8=; b=pvKznH5mIjCmiN8ysP3vXmRQQkIQJJW5jiRED4HdUBAJUEEQadDaumJsIQeGYTJ1lY +WkF7MU8KK8nTkAQxWfniY0OaSE3BVHOWMqa/SdjsRYsLwsEJEITwv5MFMm54ONwdqP3 fTslKHDOdBj03yxFAA05Uu0NrrjwC2nBMP5yemb3+5peBNDolfPG6rdiD/fVsIJWWZNr lsH6IHOcpLkCYFy5RyV2TZ29ev13SIwmVKMMxof2+ymVUy63MhVk/pQNBkYd+xi5UYNo +7J1ZD2jj0ekgOM4+soRa5PB1UzUzwRNM7u7jHZf9hYRtWZ9fpRtWGRyifPueUAfZlKh 77Cg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.8.69 with SMTP id p5mr15333917lba.97.1420736039268; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:53:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 17:53:59 +0100 Subject: Re: application console with window From: Chris Warrick To: adam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 60 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1420736048 news.xs4all.nl 2859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55446 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83356 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM, adam wrote: > I just learn python. If you write in Polish it will be easier for me to > explain any problem, because my English is very thin. You cannot really learn to program without speaking English well. If you can=E2=80=99t speak English, you will have lots of issues: it will be harder to memorize things, you will be writing function/=E2=80=A6 names brainlessly and, most importantly, you won=E2=80=99t be able to communicate with other programmers (as demonstrated here). English IS the official language of technology, period. You should improve your English first if you want to succeed in the industry (or create anything advanced). This Usenet newsgroup/mailing list is for English-language discussion only. Polish-language communities exist, you can search around if you want. As Emil said, urwid is the package to use to create a CLI (command-line interface). However, the list of OSes you provided includes Windows, which makes it very problematic (you would have to install Cygwin). You could also switch to a GUI (graphical user interface) with eg. Tkinter or something else that looks much better than ugly old Tkinter (eg. PyQT). --- Nie mo=C5=BCesz si=C4=99 nauczy=C4=87 programowa=C4=87 bez dobrej znajomo= =C5=9Bci angielskiego. Je=C5=9Bli nie umiesz m=C3=B3wi=C4=87 po angielsku, b=C4=99dziesz mia=C5=82= wiele problem=C3=B3w: trudniej b=C4=99dzie Ci zapami=C4=99ta=C4=87 wszystko, b=C4=99dziesz zapisy= wa=C5=82 nazwy funkcji/=E2=80=A6 bezmy=C5=9Blnie i, co najwa=C5=BCniejsze, nie b=C4=99dzie= sz m=C3=B3g=C5=82 si=C4=99 komunikowa=C4=87 z innymi programistami (co zosta=C5=82o tu zademonstrowane= ). Angielski JEST j=C4=99zykiem oficjalnym technologii. Powiniene=C5=9B podszlifowa=C4=87 sw=C3=B3j angielski je=C5=9Bli chcesz odnie=C5=9B=C4=87 s= ukces w bran=C5=BCy (lub nawet napisa=C4=87 co=C5=9B bardziej zaawansowanego) Ta grupa Usenetowa/lista dyskusyjna jest przeznaczona tylko do dyskusji w j=C4=99zyku angielskim. Grupy w j=C4=99zyku polskim na pewno istniej=C4=85, mo=C5=BCesz poszuka=C4=87. Jak powiedzia=C5=82 Emil, powinienie=C5=9B u=C5=BCy=C4=87 pakietu urwid je= =C5=9Bli chcesz utworzy=C4=87 CLI (interfejs wiersza polece=C5=84). Na li=C5=9Bcie system= =C3=B3w operacyjnych jest Windows, co bardzo utrudnia spraw=C4=99 (musia=C5=82by=C5= =9B zainstalowa=C4=87 Cygwina). Mo=C5=BCesz te=C5=BC przej=C5=9B=C4=87 na GUI = (graficzny interfejs u=C5=BCytkownika), np. przy u=C5=BCyciu biblioteki Tkinter lub czego=C5=9B = innego co wygl=C4=85da lepiej ni=C5=BC stary brzydki Tkinter (np. PyQT) --=20 Chris Warrick PGP: 5EAAEA16