Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'causing': 0.04; 'importing': 0.05; 'definitions': 0.07; 'failing': 0.07; 'importerror:': 0.07; 'remaining': 0.07; '*is*': 0.09; 'differing': 0.09; 'exec': 0.09; 'here?': 0.09; 'referenced': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'subject:modules': 0.09; 'try:': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'changes': 0.15; '"from': 0.16; '(note': 0.16; 'fails.': 0.16; 'file):': 0.16; 'importerror': 0.16; 'imports': 0.16; 'interpreter,': 0.16; 'likewise': 0.16; 'modules,': 0.16; 'then?': 0.16; 'top-level': 0.16; 'folder': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'code,': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'circular': 0.24; 'module,': 0.24; 'necessary.': 0.24; 'package.': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'important.': 0.30; 'relative': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'directly,': 0.31; 'fine,': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'figure': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'except': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'module.': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'files': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'john': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'refer': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'needing': 0.65; 'p.s.': 0.66; '2015': 0.84; 'blob': 0.84; 'usage.': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ak7S1GGFgvrlUiqXznFreQ9uZc7hyIIIf1VgNK8gI48=; b=pJ0kDEC3S4Ho38xlxmEf5f/4qo5QTHV7GgkodSzU57zno7TWBL8SrIbZ4JwBfTdIuc XIbwukJpTB+lii4TYw0Q5TzK2bXybKTClPIVWCcSa09cb6/iIKXvBA6LY3Xgxkfx49Ck 2qCV10AjKaIVcB1RmyRS30RMPDPmYctVRVqHOLH+c0YVqEz8D18X9aeuEFqXz1ugYBo5 5TgEHIhAih+JDAzE5YIppF1cozp5tD28xN5ZAHcsOXFXu5IEPiRHvV/4lgAqenA6HwqQ hqwsyHi0zdM3NpwsQrJJanvtZaEcaladTFblNXrl0mLPIvbNyqs4MvkxGvn8NSwJ6pNt gLTw== X-Received: by 10.224.129.132 with SMTP id o4mr8146729qas.66.1420664173096; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 12:56:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:55:32 -0600 Subject: Re: pickle, modules, and ImportErrors To: John Ladasky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "comp.lang.python" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 70 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1420664176 news.xs4all.nl 2893 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:83302 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John Ladasky w= rote: > If I execute "import my_svr" in an iPython interpreter, everything works = as I think that I should expect: -snip- > However, a nearly-identical program in the parent folder fails (note that= all I change is the relative path to the file): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "reload test different directory.py", line 6, in > model =3D load(f) > ImportError: No module named 'model' > > > Do I need to "import my_svr.model as model" then? Adding that line chang= es nothing. I get the exact same "ImportError: No module named 'model'". > > Likewise for "import my_svr", "from my_svr import *", or even "from my_sv= r.model import SVRModel". > > It is clear that I'm failing to understand something important. in the first case, the model module was available as a top-level module, "model". Pickles referenced that module when serialized. In the second case, the model module was available as a submodule of the top level my_svr package. So any pickles serialized from there would use my_svr.model to refer to the model module. There *is* no model module in this second case, so deserializing fails. If you never run model directly, and only ever import it or run it as my_svr.model, then you will be fine, and pickles will all serialize and deserialize the same way. For example, instead of python -i my_svr/model.py, you can use python -im my_svr.model . (or ipython -im my_svr.model). P.S. don't use pickle, it is a security vulnerability equivalent in severity to using exec in your code, and an unversioned opaque schemaless blob that is very difficult to work with when circumstances change. > I do not have any circular import dependencies; however, some of the file= s in my package do need to import definitions from files earlier in my data= pipeline. In order to make everything work inside the module, as well as = making a parent-folder "import my_svr" work from a iPython, I find myself = needing to use statements like these inside my training.py program: > > > try: > from model import * > from sampling import * > except ImportError: > from .model import * > from .sampling import * > > > This bothers me. I don't know whether it is correct usage. I don't know= whether it is causing my remaining ImportError problem. This is a symptom of the differing ways you are importing these modules, as above. If you only ever run them and import them as my_svr.blahblah, then only the second set of imports are necessary. P.S. don't use import *, and if you do use import *, don't use more than one per file -- it makes it really hard to figure out where a given global came from (was it defined here? was it defined in model? was it defined in sampling?) I hope that resolves all your questions! -- Devin