Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; 'oct': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:sub': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'trying': 0.21; 'bit': 0.21; "i've": 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'besides': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; 'pile': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'not.': 0.32; 'certain': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'pm,': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'well.': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'talk': 0.38; 'several': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'worth': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'become': 0.65; 'bot': 0.84; 'coupled': 0.84; 'humans.': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'convinced': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Slicing iterables in sub-generators without loosing elements Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:59:04 -0400 References: <040cf4f0-e6de-45b1-add4-462c02fc2c7f@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349204420 news.xs4all.nl 6926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37975 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30653 On 10/2/2012 1:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> What happened to freedom of speech? If I want to talk to a bot, I'll talk >> to a bot. Besides I'm not convinced it/he/she is a bot. Plus if you read >> my post carefully, add in several years experience of Python the language >> and Python the comedy, you might come to the conclusion that a certain >> amount of urine extraction was going on :) > > Coupled with a bit of bot-seeding, which is always fun. > > One of these days I'm going to mail Dihedral a whole pile of Gilbert > and Sullivan operetta and see if any of it comes back in his posts... > > Dihedral might be a bot and might not. I've come to the conclusion > that it's not worth trying to find out, given that a good bot can > outdo a lot of humans in useful conversation. I just read that bots playing Unreal Tournament with an 'act human' module seem more human to at least some humans than humans. Perhaps that is because humans have to become bot-like to play UT well. -- Terry Jan Reedy