Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.068 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:spam': 0.04; 'less,': 0.09; 'only,': 0.09; 'list?': 0.13; 'alain': 0.16; 'alexandre': 0.16; 'disconnect': 0.16; 'gene': 0.16; 'newsgroup': 0.16; 'nntp': 0.16; 'randomize': 0.16; 'reached,': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'spammers': 0.16; 'cheers,': 0.18; "doesn't": 0.22; 'stuff': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'subject:List': 0.25; 'writes:': 0.25; "i'm": 0.27; 'second': 0.29; 'do.': 0.30; 'scanned': 0.31; 'list': 0.32; 'handling': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; "i've": 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'all.': 0.34; 'list.': 0.35; 'anything': 0.36; 'thursday,': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'think': 0.38; 'academic': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'getting': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'background': 0.40; 'choose': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'link': 0.63; 'subscribers': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; "google's": 0.68; 'august': 0.70; 'claim': 0.76; 'average': 0.77; '"there': 0.84; 'captcha': 0.84; 'injecting': 0.84; 'sin.': 0.84; 'spammer': 0.84; 'received:66.118': 0.91 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: From: gene heskett To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: List spam Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:14:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38.8-pclos3.pae.bfs; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) References: <87hb5e6ahx.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> In-Reply-To: <87hb5e6ahx.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1313684058 news.xs4all.nl 23926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37127 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:11777 On Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:08:38 PM Alain Ketterlin did opine: > "Jason Staudenmayer" writes: > > I really like this list as part of my learning tools but the amount of > > spam that I've been getting from it is CRAZY. Doesn't anything get > > scanned before it sent to the list? > > I'm using nntp to read this newsgroup (through an academic server). > No spam at all. > > -- Alain. Which I think re-enforces the conclusion I have reached, and that is that the most obnoxious spammer here is injecting his spam directly to a machine handling google's groups that is downstream of any filtering they claim to do. Short answer is to disconnect the the NNTP link and make this list into a REAL mailing list. Subscribers only, or get past a GOOD captcha. Spammers have stuff that can do the average captcha in a second or less, so choose the images wisely and randomize both the background and the text. Cheers, gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The state of innocence contains the germs of all future sin. -- Alexandre Arnoux, "Etudes et caprices"