Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!217.188.199.168.MISMATCH!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator,': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'ops': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'subject:Java': 0.16; 'supported.': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'either.': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; 'recognized': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'errors': 0.30; 'received:66': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; '(from': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'acts': 0.74; 'special': 0.74; 'subject:experience': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.us; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=S2LkHBCqrM8dKXli8CPnBXl86Cs=; b=Y/JmLZ 6xrlE08z75nSoaft17ej3lM7bkvY1VcLxk2nk7kQmIZ18t3URgbKQh33IbxBjV6Z 9dmyW41UJRYBg8VQlsTWMvlnvjIOnms2bxHbsiRvTW6vl4RAgwo/xVVfms3HfPv3 67Ms1LaOfUvmXOmxzUVuhIbDGUV+YhtbDb8FM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=S2LkHBCqrM8dKXl i8CPnBXl86Cs=; b=YITxgb0in0xvg0MEScsl24gBZL+ruR4oiYt6RWnS1XGOZuw hK4SFiwgr/0/I+7IcGVUIJhIQJdvvCIMQ5Slwx0cPGFa7IuxMSajRQ6B+md1KcWZ GDS48Cbw+lDeHLThedNCNoW8OrXg7oNo/k4oReUHqJwH74pZW+G/YXWFbIqw= X-Sasl-Enc: vbuY9aWNbX68pEbzoZ24nkZDZFd01JuMyj477ZsnrLDQ 1430917892 From: random832@fastmail.us To: python-list@python.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-102d4956 Subject: Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 09:11:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <87r3qwid3u.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1430917894 news.xs4all.nl 2861 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40203 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90053 On Mon, May 4, 2015, at 18:02, BartC wrote: > (I think I would have picked up "++" and "--" as special tokens even if > increment/decrement ops weren't supported. Just because they would > likely cause errors through misunderstanding.) There's precedent for not doing this in C itself - even though "=+" (from very early versions of C, also =-, =*, =&) no longer acts as an add-in-place operator, it's not recognized as a special token to prevent errors either.