Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.114 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.00; 'messages.': 0.05; 'see.': 0.07; '22,': 0.09; "client's": 0.09; 'correct,': 0.09; 'formatting': 0.09; 'override': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'utilizing': 0.09; 'thread': 0.14; '*any*': 0.16; 'better:': 0.16; 'formatting.': 0.16; 'mode,': 0.16; 'overridden': 0.16; 'rules.': 0.16; 'tempted': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'large,': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '(like': 0.30; 'besides': 0.30; 'agreed.': 0.31; 'argue': 0.31; 'font': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'cases': 0.33; 'monday,': 0.33; 'message.': 0.35; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'display': 0.35; 'december': 0.35; 'except': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'whilst': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'negative': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'color': 0.61; 'forum': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'stand': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'difficulty': 0.68; 'frequently': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'special': 0.74; 'black,': 0.84; 'colored': 0.84; 'compose': 0.84; 'composing': 0.84; 'fonts': 0.84; 'pts': 0.84; 'reading,': 0.84; 'received:74.208.4.194': 0.84; 'responding.': 0.84; 'white,': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; 'urban': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:59:10 -0500 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: what is wrong with d.clear()? References: <9f54b6e1-598a-44ea-953f-0de17d9809c2@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9f54b6e1-598a-44ea-953f-0de17d9809c2@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:epC5dciJHg8zDAD1z4GIBpv++hd6S7zaOKlOHk2NVQY fNkcDLRAWF3Hhr8GEo3Hed0P5rNtG6U2d1VrtWaGJGS1CsqRjK 06lTlz8HxJpMGpJ1DiEqx6YMFntUjzRH89voA6+TJSVopR7q9g Sry8c7Hv0VNiwug6I5BtSMozmTT1qFf+C/iWnAEYAlGfhhlrc3 GivDQY3dZgF90G3z3z6deG6FLtwFdWVYxbDmwLnPH4uZQSEvED 2rfC9DC/PmdVffy5ErUsmKrjWibuEXgTPTbqcg3jKEIxvhluMv yuZlWUauHjwRWlV8tINT/ZWHamG5BAeYF3/MU3u+q0RU03azYY Zt2BcpRFoRB7gv+DB4UI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1419285571 news.xs4all.nl 2927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37827 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82809 On 12/22/2014 04:19 PM, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:54:55 PM UTC-8, Rick Johnson wrote: >> On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:16:03 PM UTC-6, sohca...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:16:15 AM UTC-8, shawool wrote: >>> >>> [snip: OP's adolescent accessorizing] @_@ >>> >>> Is there a reason you're composing your messages with a >>> large, colored font Shit's obnoxious, yo. >> >> Whilst i don't share shawool's penchant of utilizing the >> brutish urban vernacular, i must agree that he has a valid >> point. >> >> Please don't be tempted to use large fonts (or very small >> fonts), typically anything around 12 pts will suffice. Also, >> using any font color besides black, or background color >> besides white, should be limited except to *VERY* rare >> occasions. >> > > I would argue that you should never use *ANY* formatting. No font size changes. No colors. No fonts. If you need to set a larger font because you have difficulty reading, then just change your client's display font. There's no need to compose messages that send HTML to override how other people see your message. It's just rude, since they might have their client set to use a specific font size when viewing messages, and you've just overridden it for selfish reasons. > > Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. > >> If you think that by using a large font and bright color for >> you "whole post" that your question is more likely to "stand >> out", then you are correct, but it most likely stand out in >> a negative way. I feel it just as annoying as someone who >> constantly bumps a thread even when no one is responding. > > Absolutely agreed. > Or even better: Don't use html email for forum messages. It frequently messes up the colors, the font, the formatting (like indentation), or even prevents some people from even seeing and/or replying to the message. Put the email program in text mode, and just send what you want people to see. -- DaveA