Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.franciliens.net!news.muarf.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.025 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; ';-)': 0.03; 'algorithm': 0.04; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'box?': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'mean,': 0.16; 'stuff.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'stick': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'stuff': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'whilst': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'behind': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'implement': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'results': 0.69; 'applying': 0.72; 'subject:Hello': 0.72; 'cryptography': 0.91; 'subject:World': 0.91; 'to:addr:none': 0.97 X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: wwwh|x-authuser|tim@thechases.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: wwwh X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1419209131731:2804809898 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1419209131730 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:47:45 -0600 From: Tim Chase To: mm0fmf Subject: Re: Hello World In-Reply-To: References: <54957226$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54971df7$0$30820$b1db1813$ba2d9d20@news.astraweb.com> <54974ed7$0$12986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Importance: low X-Priority: 4 (Low) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: tim@thechases.com Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1419209143 news.xs4all.nl 2849 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36108 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82732 On 2014-12-22 00:20, mm0fmf wrote: > On 22/12/2014 00:10, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Level 0: Why implement your own crypto?!? > > Because people who don't understand the concepts behind > cryptography don't understand that the crypto algorithm can be open > whilst the results of applying the algorithm are secure. > > There again I always use ROT-13 to encrypt my stuff. For the stuff > that really has to be NSA-proof I use ROT-13 twice. Pshaw. When I really want to be secure, I stick to *Triple ROT13* I mean, why else would Vim have the ability to do it easily out of the box? (I suspect Emacs offers similar functionality) Like ed(1), it's a standard! ;-) -tkc