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Sender: Ned Batchelder <nedbat@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:22:09 -0400
From: Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
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On 10/28/13 1:53 PM, rusi wrote:
> On Monday, October 28, 2013 10:38:45 PM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>      We've already seen a few new people explicitly asking, "is this what
>>      usually happens on this list?" and they weren't referring to the
>>      Chris-style response, they were referring to the Mark-style
>>      response.
> Here's the post of Vladimir Bugaj earlier in this same thread:
>
>> I rarely ever post here.
>>
>> But I wanted to say that people responding to this Nikos troll makes reading
>> this list a nuisance.
>> You've never ever been successful in convincing him to behave, and it's been
>> going on for quite a while now.
>> I remain subscribed for occasional  interesting new idioms and tips, but
>> always have to sift through this nonsense.
>> And all of you who take the bait are as much a part of the problem as the troll.
>> Just ignore the guy.
> ---------
> How do you read this that he minds the 'Mark-style' post more than the 'Chris-style' post?

First, let's keep in mind that I am also in favor of completely ignoring 
help vampires, including Nikos.  I agree with Vladimir that we should 
just ignore him.

The posts I was thinking of started with Daniel Stojanov:

     "I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is this 
what normally happens on this list?"
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656639.html

and the next day, Ravi Sahni said in response:

     "Lurker here: I too was wondering whether I have got into the wrong 
place"
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656695.html

When people walk through the door, we should speak well to them.  If 
they are trouble, we should deal with them without it turning into a 
negative storm.  Remember that there are people looking in the windows 
trying to decide whether to come through the door.

--Ned.


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    On 10/28/13 1:53 PM, rusi wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">On Monday, October 28, 2013 10:38:45 PM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
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    We've already seen a few new people explicitly asking, "is this what
    usually happens on this list?" and they weren't referring to the
    Chris-style response, they were referring to the Mark-style
    response.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
Here's the post of Vladimir Bugaj earlier in this same thread:

</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">I rarely ever post here.

But I wanted to say that people responding to this Nikos troll makes reading 
this list a nuisance.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">You've never ever been successful in convincing him to behave, and it's been 
going on for quite a while now.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">I remain subscribed for occasional  interesting new idioms and tips, but 
always have to sift through this nonsense.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">And all of you who take the bait are as much a part of the problem as the troll.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
</pre>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap="">Just ignore the guy.
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre wrap="">
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How do you read this that he minds the 'Mark-style' post more than the 'Chris-style' post?
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    <br>
    First, let's keep in mind that I am also in favor of completely
    ignoring help vampires, including Nikos.&nbsp; I agree with Vladimir that
    we should just ignore him.<br>
    <br>
    The posts I was thinking of started with Daniel Stojanov:<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is
    this what normally happens on this list?"<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656639.html">https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656639.html</a><br>
    <br>
    and the next day, Ravi Sahni said in response:<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Lurker here: I too was wondering whether I have got into the
    wrong place"<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656695.html">https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656695.html</a><br>
    <br>
    When people walk through the door, we should speak well to them.&nbsp; If
    they are trouble, we should deal with them without it turning into a
    negative storm.&nbsp; Remember that there are people looking in the
    windows trying to decide whether to come through the door.<br>
    <br>
    --Ned.<br>
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