Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.038 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'assumed': 0.09; 'received:209.85.219': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'width': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '"def"': 0.16; '"for"': 0.16; 'choice,': 0.16; 'columns': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'size,': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'forces': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'subject:all': 0.32; 'option': 0.32; 'level.': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'ian': 0.60; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.61; 'hardware': 0.61; 'introduced': 0.61; 'positions': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'eight': 0.74; 'ambiguous': 0.84; 'timothy': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; '2013': 0.98 X-Received: by 10.49.30.168 with SMTP id t8mr1166948qeh.8.1365207739309; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=95.64.105.131; posting-account=7e2TtQgAAAC3-CFi2y8UR1rCwLAgp6NT References: <64d4fb7c-6a75-4b5f-b5c8-06a4b2b5d0cb@googlegroups.com> <906d8c05-99dc-4209-854c-7988ca7c78e3@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 95.64.105.131 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I hate you all From: terminatorul@gmail.com To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365207748 news.xs4all.nl 6843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42670 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42868 On Saturday, April 6, 2013 1:42:15 AM UTC+3, Ian wrote: [...] > The "def" line has four spaces. The "for" line then has a hard tab. > This is ambiguous. If the hard tab is assumed to have a width of four > spaces, then they are at the same indentation level. If it is assumed > to have a width of eight spaces, then they are not. [...] The correct tab stop positions have always been at 8 character columns apart. The "ambiguity" was introduced by editors that do not follow the default value set in hardware like printers or used by consoles and terminal emulators. And now python forces me out of using any tab characters at all. I believe I should still have a choice, python should at lest give an option to set tab size, if the default of 8 is ambiguous now. Thank you, Timothy Madden