Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!takemy.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'pypi': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'assume': 0.11; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'scratch': 0.16; 'so!': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; "shouldn't": 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '2015': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'libraries': 0.22; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'pointer.': 0.29; 'probably': 0.31; 'language.': 0.32; '-0700': 0.33; 'behind': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'manual': 0.38; 'stuff': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; '100': 0.79; 'received:89': 0.80; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'alone.': 0.91; 'dennis': 0.91; 'grew': 0.91; 'hundred': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Pipes Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:18:39 +0100 References: <3bf7a462-2c70-4e53-bfc6-86b5acb9f5f8@googlegroups.com> <2nefsaleec1b20kur4mbt5jat3eafh2f3n@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-163-9.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: <2nefsaleec1b20kur4mbt5jat3eafh2f3n@4ax.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1439155143 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53149 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95205 On 09/08/2015 21:43, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 10:55:36 -0700 (PDT), rogerh906@gmail.com declaimed the > following: > >> >> Nevermind, I found it. Thanks for the pointer. But WOW! Python is described as an easy to learn language. I don't think so! >> > It is... The Language Reference Manual is only some 70 or so pages (I > haven't counted the later versions; probably grew to 100 behind my back). > > But the LIBRARIES that do all the nice things for you so you don't have > program the stuff from scratch may take some time to get familiar. > I assume that by LIBRARIES you mean the stdlib? Once you've mastered all of them, a couple of hundred at most which shouldn't take more than a few minutes, it shouldn't take too very much longer to get to grips with the 64337 packages listed on pypi alone. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence