Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.049 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'resulting': 0.04; 'received:134': 0.05; 'suddenly': 0.07; 'suppose': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'quiet': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'expecting': 0.16; "he'll": 0.16; 'humour': 0.16; 'mark,': 0.16; 'mine.': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'resist': 0.16; 'sadly': 0.16; 'stable.': 0.16; 'survive': 0.16; 'for?': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'not,': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; 'regardless': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; '+0100,': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'says': 0.33; 'becomes': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'combination': 0.36; 'in.': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'feed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'helps': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'complete': 0.62; 'strategy': 0.64; 'feeling': 0.68; 'nobody': 0.68; 'promise': 0.68; 'wish': 0.70; 'clinical': 0.84; 'curb': 0.84; 'depression': 0.84; 'entertaining': 0.84; 'moron': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'syndrome,': 0.84; 'wish.': 0.84; 'chronic': 0.91; 'urge': 0.91; 'sex': 0.93; 'silent': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8EAM03blKGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABZv3iCeoE3gxkBAQQBeAYLCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFEwgCh30Gpl2IN4kUj1wWhBYDmAqGJ4tggyc Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:14:07 +0100 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Cookie fucking problem References: <526be71b$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <526BFAA4.5070405@rece.vub.ac.be> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382955249 news.xs4all.nl 15888 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48295 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57808 Op 26-10-13 23:22, Mark Lawrence schreef: > On 26/10/2013 18:23, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 26-10-13 18:19, Mark Lawrence schreef: >>> On 26/10/2013 17:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:34:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 26/10/2013 14:27, Nick the Gr33k wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Buy a sex manual. >>>> >>>> Mark, please resist the urge to bait Nick with insults. As entertaining >>>> as they may be, they don't actually help reduce the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I promise to stop baiting this complete and utter moron when I observe >>> that nobody on this group says a single word to him as that's the only >>> message that he'll understand. Any word to him from anybody and I >>> reserve the right to join in. >> >> I fear this strategy is not stable. Just suppose most people follow this >> strategy but someone reacts to Nikos anyhow. Now suddenly a lot of >> people feel they have the right to join in. And of course these >> reactions will feed this feeling. >> >> I understand you feel you don't have to keep silent if others aren't >> but I wish your trigger would be less sensitive. >> > > I wish I didn't have a combination of Asperger Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue > Syndrome and Clinical Depression but sadly I'm stuck with the lot :( I can't help you with your wish. You can help with mine. Do you think I am unreasonable in what I wish for? > Regardless of what others (rusi?) said earlier I'll keep my sense of > humour going, it least that helps me to survive :) Sure, the question is how you are going to use it. If we all follow your strategy, sense of humour or not, the net result will be a lot of people feeling righteous about their contributions to the list all expecting the others to curb their behaviour first and resulting in a big mess. Sure you can say your piece when you notice there is still a substantial respons to Nikos and that you don't feel the need to keep quiet as long as that is going on. But if you think that a single word from anyone to Nikos is enough to make you feel righteous about responding, then your behaviour becomes part of the problem. -- Antoon Pardon