Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'exception': 0.03; 'raised': 0.07; 'broken.': 0.09; 'subject:modules': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'advance': 0.10; 'context;': 0.16; 'dot,': 0.16; 'everybody.': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'presume': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'still,': 0.16; 'subject:import': 0.16; 'vpython': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'pfxlen:0': 0.17; 'math': 0.20; 'skip:" 40': 0.20; 'trying': 0.21; 'import': 0.21; 'form:': 0.22; 'progress.': 0.22; 'posted': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'example': 0.23; 'installed': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; 'order.': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'first.': 0.27; 'skip:" 50': 0.27; 'run': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'install': 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'error': 0.30; 'problem.': 0.32; 'system,': 0.32; 'file': 0.32; 'help,': 0.32; "who's": 0.32; 'running': 0.32; 'message.': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'form.': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; "can't": 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'visual': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'thank': 0.36; 'bad': 0.37; 'reported': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'uses': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'teach': 0.69; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'amazed': 0.84; 'cross,': 0.84; 'located.': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'url:system': 0.91; 'responses': 0.93 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:16:30 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Farrell Subject: Re: Can't import modules References: <36813ff7-68b9-44eb-9b25-7c13ae739566@googlegroups.com> <5068a9e0$0$6915$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> <2e36e097-a43f-43b4-98a6-8da999c39c21@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <2e36e097-a43f-43b4-98a6-8da999c39c21@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:rjsou2oNrJcD9nbs+LzFNdzZ45Yr+j9MsK2BmUAO+/b gZWNz7vUadjC/JaINx9YyoSIyLZXlCtfCqXH0FbOGiilL5+D8I pfjhdaS2xftebnE9eJRSKOnsNE45+aukDTI65443JhYS6jH/lg 1j+8SxHL0FMEOrIs++rQXxoJMCjJBUu7h2rIWrgigQc6/nC6AH 0tTTIB+k/4V8Xfg200sIW5R1ZAbsAuA6OM6ZATzH6egueAL3im OWUW3JqIE5thGu8eIv4xUNwy/ewSWq57LveSu8kCifxgg1zRoZ 23d/H6NWfazJC1I+I0+Kx2NP5A6KBv8i9ogcdhF5JmMYW4jlQ= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349054275 news.xs4all.nl 6932 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50219 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30581 On 09/30/2012 08:35 PM, Peter Farrell wrote: You top-posted, which means there's no context; the message is now out of order. Please put your responses after the parts you're quoting, or don't bother quoting. > Thanks for trying to help, everybody. Sorry I didn't post the whole error message. Now my problem is I just installed VPython and I'm trying to run the very first example, bounce.py which I located. I opened it and ran it in Idle. I got this message: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Python32\Lib\site-packages\visual\examples\bounce.py", line 1, in > from visual import * > File "C:\Python32\lib\site-packages\visual\__init__.py", line 1, in > from .visual_all import * > File "C:\Python32\lib\site-packages\visual\visual_all.py", line 1, in > from vis import version > File "C:\Python32\lib\site-packages\vis\__init__.py", line 3, in > from .cvisual import (vector, dot, mag, mag2, norm, cross, rotate, > SystemError: initialization of cvisual raised unreported exception That's a different error message than you reported at first. If you can't even run an example supplied with the system, you'd better post a question on the vpython forum (I presume it's available from http://vpython.wikidot.com/system:join) Presumably the install program is broken. Or maybe you just can't run visual from IDLE. Try running from the terminal prompt. I'm amazed that it uses the form: from visual_all import * That's considered bad form. Still, it's probably not the problem. What happens if you write a two line program: import visual_all print("Import succeeded") > I'm not a programmer, just a math teacher/tutor who's trying to teach my students to understand math through using something real like Python. I'll keep you posted on my progress. > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > -- DaveA