Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.329 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.37; '*S*': 0.03; 'responding': 0.07; "wouldn't": 0.14; '*do': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'objection': 0.16; 'omitted.': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'see,': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'too.': 0.31; 'enforce': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'community': 0.33; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'instances': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'effective': 0.61; 'address': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'telling': 0.64; 'yes': 0.68; 'social': 0.69; 'special': 0.74; 'power': 0.76; 'choose.': 0.84; 'cow': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'received:195.238': 0.84; 'received:195.238.6': 0.84; 'received:belgacom.be': 0.84; 'received:isp.belgacom.be': 0.84; 'reframe': 0.84 X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAMgNblJbs+yY/2dsb2JhbAANTIcmu0uBM4MZAQEBAwEjFUAGCwsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMGAgIQh20LpT92ToguiRSBKYxtB4E/FoJUgUIDmAqVLoFn Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:13:48 +0100 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130922 Icedove/17.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Cookie fucking problem References: <7wzjpvaetr.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <526D158C.3040807@rece.vub.ac.be> <7wbo2a9txt.fsf@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: <7wbo2a9txt.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:40:12 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382949613 news.xs4all.nl 15919 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46048 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57799 Op 28-10-13 00:26, Ben Finney schreef: > Antoon Pardon writes: > >> Op 26-10-13 23:43, Ben Finney schreef: >>> Feel free to occupy your time with baiting Nikos. But *do not* do it >>> in this forum. >> >> Would you mind telling this to others too. > > I'm not in any special position of power here; I'm not beholden to > address every instance of bad behaviour or none at all. Fine. But if what people see, is that you address specific people instead of specific behaviour then don't expect your addressing to carry much weight. > Any member of > this community can apply the same social pressure, and together we can > cover as many of them as we choose. Yes and can be as effective as as a cow cathing rabbits. > I have no particular objection to you responding to those instances of > bad behaviour that I've omitted. You are missing the point. I don't think it would be very effective if I would start critisising people I don't like and wouldn't address the same behaviour from people I am sympathic with. That would just turn this group in tribal factions. Personnaly I don't mind baiting but if I feel there grows some kind of consensus that baiting is considered off limits I'll reframe myself and may even help to enforce it. However when I see the addressing of baiting is limited to specific people, then all I see is an expression of personal dislike. -- Antoon Pardon.