Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; '(at': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'nicely': 0.07; 'etc).': 0.09; 'meaningful': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'suggestions:': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.10; 'extension': 0.13; 'useful,': 0.13; '"python': 0.16; 'bullet': 0.16; 'capability.': 0.16; 'differs': 0.16; 'modules,': 0.16; 'received:mail-wi0-f178.google.com': 0.16; 'subject:Dev': 0.16; 'subject:Misc': 0.16; 'subject:included': 0.16; 'url:py3k': 0.16; 'url:whatsnew': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'library,': 0.17; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'module': 0.19; 'changes': 0.20; 'tracker': 0.20; 'affected': 0.22; 'filtering': 0.22; 'cc:2**1': 0.24; 'least': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'separate': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'subject:/': 0.28; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'informative': 0.29; 'python"': 0.29; 'though.': 0.29; 'related': 0.30; '(including': 0.30; 'e.g.': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'likely': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'done': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'cc:no real name:2**1': 0.36; 'guidance': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'page': 0.38; 'where': 0.40; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'link': 0.60; 'time,': 0.62; '30,': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'detail.': 0.65; 'matter.': 0.65; 'useful.': 0.65; 'rendering': 0.71; 'descriptive': 0.84; 'distinctive': 0.84; 'lastly,': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CkHG9tW3D6V389GqB+rfl/+jM9axyraTYYqHeuYwsqw=; b=uSAAieUv8GD6UHuo3ed4mvRTuz0BEbOIZcs0NUiBmj3RY2Gg47YVGeEtvWlmBCan3f Oo/Jm1uW/lyCCppDAEGv1pGOq5PlHDRKXcGyrNrihcPxHiq4HgXvYEO4qP14vzZ9qruz UsSHjsF7VDVi+qjoR7Wi/24fpks3eiQMxOUJUEm+wGJfodq5NDLtrigVxXfVaA/RQ5yx xXS1hP4SXn9wXNMZMpOWwKFawWA6i2rnoRsEvPMlEkOkhLW1uFBWdl97UER9U0KoIJAj RQLpBMu81N1lcN0769RnvW7uIinlKf3F03Yoo5e9V+JUzq+5FIKvH3cOfEspq32Wcnz4 277Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:14:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] experimental: Misc/NEWS included in docs From: Chris Jerdonek To: Georg Brandl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org, python-dev@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1349032485 news.xs4all.nl 6857 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39023 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30563 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > at http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/news.html, there is now > a rendering of Misc/NEWS with tracker links and a crude filtering > capability. I thought that this will complement the "whatsnew" > documents nicely for people looking for more detail. > > Please let me know if it's useful, or what could be done to make > it *more* useful. Good idea. Some suggestions: * A note at the top explaining what this page is and how it differs from the other What's New page (including perhaps a link to the other What's New page). It might also be good if the two had more distinctive titles. They are currently "What=92s New in Python" and "Python News." * It would be good if the section links could somehow be "perma-links." They will currently vary over time, e.g. http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/news.html#id3 * Lastly, I think skimming this list would be more informative to me at least if each bullet began with the name of the affected module or area (at least in the case where just one module is affected). The issue number is less meaningful as a descriptive header. Changing this would likely require changes in how we prepare Misc/NEWS though. On a separate but related note, I never know where to put the various subsections in relation to one another in Misc/NEWS (Core and Builtins, Library, Extension Modules, etc). It would be good if there was guidance on that -- even if to say it completely doesn't matter. --Chris