Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'numerical': 0.05; 'scipy': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'terry': 0.07; 'type,': 0.07; 'versions.': 0.07; 'wrapper': 0.07; 'wxpython': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'cvs': 0.09; 'manipulate': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'sites.': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'library': 0.15; 'arrays.': 0.16; 'computation': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'perform,': 0.16; 'seems': 0.20; 'language': 0.20; 'downloaded': 0.21; 'this?': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'reason,': 0.23; 'interface': 0.23; 'library.': 0.25; 'ago': 0.25; 'modules': 0.25; 'helpful': 0.26; 'scientific': 0.28; 'engineering': 0.29; 'module': 0.30; 'researching': 0.30; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'weeks': 0.34; 'there': 0.34; 'tools.': 0.34; 'couple': 0.34; 'things': 0.34; 'module.': 0.35; 'source,': 0.35; 'structured': 0.35; 'version.': 0.35; 'uses': 0.35; 'data,': 0.35; 'session': 0.35; 'tasks': 0.35; 'open': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'perform': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'several': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'another': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'user': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'went': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'data': 0.39; 'itself.': 0.39; 'help': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'missing': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'presented': 0.62; 'huge': 0.64; 'series': 0.66; 'coherent': 0.84; 'excel.': 0.84; 'actions,': 0.91; 'it\x92s': 0.91; 'something.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Wondering in the Python Forrest Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:56:32 -0400 References: <1ef8a3f4-a6ec-44da-a39e-c48dd234a2ca@p14g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.205.249.126 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To: <1ef8a3f4-a6ec-44da-a39e-c48dd234a2ca@p14g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1312034192 news.xs4all.nl 23946 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48399 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:10582 On 7/30/2011 7:13 AM, ray wrote: > I am new to Python and am learning for engineering and scientific > use. For some reason, which I don’t remember, I went to Scipy.org > downloaded the module. I am sure it had explained things but that was > a couple weeks ago and it’s all a blur. So now I am working in > Pythonxy. One of my activities is to work with data from Excel. I > found the cvs reader and started researching its use. I found that > structured data could be presented in Python using a module in > wxPython. > > Where am I? I do not know the relationships between the Pythons. I > feel that I am missing something. I started with Python as it has so > much functionality and a huge user group of very helpful individuals > and sites. Now that I have delved deeper, it seems I need different > Pythons. > > I would like to understand how to use all this functionality, > logistically. If I have a series of tasks to perform, do I open a > session in one, read in data from a source, manipulate it, write it > out, open another Python type, read in the manipulated data, perform > other actions, write it out, close that and then open another to > display? Is there a more coherent way to do this? > > I would appreciate any help in better understanding how to use all > these tools. 'Python' is a language with multiple versions. Python2.x is the older series, but still in use Python3.x is the newer series of versions. Pythonx.y is a particular version. CPython is the main *implementation* of Python. It comes with a standard library of modules that you can import. Other people provide other modules and packages of modules that you can import. Numpy is a package for numerical computation with multi-dimensional arrays. Scipy is a package for scientific computation that uses numpy. There are several packages for adding a graphical user interface to a program. WxPython is one of those. It is the Python wrapper for the wxwidgets library. It is not a 'python' in itself. Terry