Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'context': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'delimiters': 0.16; 'from:addr:pobox.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:skip': 0.16; 'incorrect': 0.16; 'right:': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'memory': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'skip': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'explains': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'management.': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'attention': 0.75; 'low': 0.83; '"it': 0.84; 'irrelevant': 0.84; 'layout.': 0.84; 'wheel': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6a+cfG0ev/rRIEPkQlaO+NuqzIXOcyh6XnsHEtIPhmE=; b=MV4smCeFEPW3Po+7jHXXCBN8ZsV4ERIDiuwHrA40ej7BLb2gvdHsKkIoEEuI4IWKaO yj0oYyesJjDfZD1TG6IjCXL+SuRx/GAYHR3jTeTxxu7zUtnfOVokuXXc6NEgMhVI1FzF j/3X0hx5mlEx/NpXdOa8ks7k4wCVOxx5hPW3eBKcgLQ8cZXP2YuVkeYYrEOmadCaHKAu q5UqEzsridG0lG8DC8S7jhxyDMP2rstU+UDaHjKcVXSkOvkGoQBNusuDuTUYYsH8mS+H 3lKZVc2VnDF7rk+EG/0XX8PvRbxBSAv/jncTnyFOl5MRLpD5dHdDuijvRNRM/p8P99V4 BJEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.126.10 with SMTP id mu10mr2879888igb.66.1368468162762; Mon, 13 May 2013 11:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: skip.montanaro@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <5190b049$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 13:02:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ps4-49CtXMglBL3lus8V8TUuAMk Subject: Re: [Off topic] Software epigrams From: Skip Montanaro To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368468166 news.xs4all.nl 15904 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59747 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45255 > 8. A programming language is low level when its programs require > attention to the irrelevant. > > So much a matter of debate. Indentation is irrelevant, why should > Python programs pay attention to it? Block delimiters are irrelevant > too, the interpreter should be able to figure them out from the code > layout. But this one is absolutely right: I think "irrelevant" in this context means stuff like memory management. My fave was #7: "It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one," which explains in large part why the wheel is so often reinvented... Skip