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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 03:36:34 +1000
Subject: Re: Python's sad, unimaginative Enum
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On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Let's look at his major criticisms:
>
> 1) values aren't automatically generated.
>
> True. So what? That is the *least* important part of enums.

I stopped following the -ideas threads about enums, but IIRC
autogeneration of values was in quite a few of the specs early on. So
you can probably find the arguments against it in the list archives.

FWIW, though, I do like C's autogeneration of enum values - but use it
in only a small proportion of my enums. It's not a terrible loss, but
it is a loss.

ChrisA