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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:12:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, rh <richard_hubbe11@lavabit.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:41:42 +0300
> Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornatskyy@live.com> wrote:
>> Cyclomatic (or conditional) complexity is a metric used to indicate
>> the complexity of a source code. Excessive complexity is something
>> that is beyond recommended level of 10 (threshold that points to the
>> fact the source code is too complex and refactoring is suggested).
>> Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy,
>> circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py,
>> web2py and wheezy.web.
>>
>> You can read more here:
>>
>> http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html
>
> You are the author of wheezy.web right? Can't blame you for trying to
> market your product. The conclusions, or lack of, are meaningless to me.
> I have to get in and drive the car before I go all in and buy it.
>
> I'm looking at different technology right now on which to base a site.
> I tried pyramid and after install it consumed 92MB of disk. It seemed
> large and it turns out that it installed its own version of python.
> Seems more complex to me, yet another python on disk.

That's how virtualenvs (http://www.virtualenv.org/ ) normally work.
Not really Pyramid's fault, it's more a deficiency of the current
Python package management tools.

Cheers,
Chris