Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '(except': 0.05; 'suppose': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'infinite': 0.07; 'x-mailer:evolution 2.28.3': 0.07; 'correct.': 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'argument': 0.15; 'integers.': 0.16; 'non-trivial': 0.16; 'set)': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'example.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.25; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'subject: .': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'argue': 0.30; 'range,': 0.30; 'there': 0.33; "can't": 0.33; 'numbers.': 0.34; 'however,': 0.35; 'but': 0.37; 'represent': 0.37; 'could': 0.38; 'point': 0.40; 'range': 0.61; 'natural': 0.67; 'header:Reply- To:1': 0.70; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; '100%': 0.82; '09:56': 0.84; 'received:bethere.co.uk': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.93 Subject: Re: Python math is off by .000000000000045 From: Tim Wintle Cc: python-list@python.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Team Rubber Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:08:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 87.194.110.230 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tim.wintle@teamrubber.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.netsight.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: tim.wintle@teamrubber.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1330198004 news.xs4all.nl 6868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54372 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:20861 On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 09:56 -0800, Tobiah wrote: > > For every floating point > > number there is a corresponding real number, but 0% of real numbers > > can be represented exactly by floating point numbers. > > It seems to me that there are a great many real numbers that can be > represented exactly by floating point numbers. The number 1 is an > example. > > I suppose that if you divide that count by the infinite count of all > real numbers, you could argue that the result is 0%. It's not just an argument - it's mathematically correct. The same can be said for ints representing the natural numbers, or positive integers. However, ints can represent 100% of integers within a specific range, where floats can't represent all real numbers for any range (except for the empty set) - because there's an infinate number of real numbers within any non-trivial range. Tim