Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: I'm wrong or Will we fix the ducks limp? Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:16:26 -0400 Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <87mvn22veg.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <13108bea-6750-443b-bee8-0532aba8b338@googlegroups.com> <5753c89b$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87k2i483ok.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1465149206.2672380.628512985.25519878@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87inxn788j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1465161386.2706373.628623897.408287CF@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 6KNhdRXRzOBKLhZXkVUjewMiPWHbWhTds0aVQ3J3zRmA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'object)': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'references,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'languages.': 0.15; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wooden': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'java': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'code': 0.30; 'null': 0.33; 'could': 0.35; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'claim': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'post,': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=g2UcGH+MjvqGR0f/WkvDPB8MQCQ=; b=6axyFq 5NqFYVs52WXHDhXxq5VqhpPEI0wOtmsnrWqG5baSZRljXAH5BS2eEE20yg8MNvrK p59pqMjUpSxxJEAdPC8ynlgBJuLSJD7ey9XmKfLf6AWwEAkhwGAcMKicQbUSC+q7 0WvFSDqRdZDT+ukeWag6WQtuIP5Gxrml2S4Og= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=g2UcGH+MjvqGR0f /WkvDPB8MQCQ=; b=oLpkcx+yN1ghto1XMvDWb/4VVMUYF66rCWNc7NixZndb8b5 chf/5NwyhWv1kjR4h901eh3q0lxNMsmC+KGoPs3YyZ/ozNMN9+eU8cOJU9jHGw5c JrU59DBoOSPCLTEqxZj2mCJ/HCRF8PJlsK7quCd9E+ej9TPmsP3z2UXwfcJ0= X-Sasl-Enc: gPMeJUvFzchY4h4d2aXNgKKGgGoRrjGepv/kGDEHbzz9 1465161386 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2bd3df2b In-Reply-To: <87inxn788j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1465161386.2706373.628623897.408287CF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <87mvn22veg.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <13108bea-6750-443b-bee8-0532aba8b338@googlegroups.com> <5753c89b$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87k2i483ok.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1465149206.2672380.628512985.25519878@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87inxn788j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109526 On Sun, Jun 5, 2016, at 15:20, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > I say None is a wooden post, you say None is a puppy. > > What piece of Python code could put our dispute to rest? isinstance(None, object) Anyway, I read the "wooden post" claim as suggesting that a reference to None is somehow different from other references, as null in C# or Java is different from an object reference in those languages.