Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.042 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'italic': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'pages:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'comments': 0.31; 'types.': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'tool': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'field': 0.63; 'site:': 0.83; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'confusing': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; '1:18': 0.91; 'involved.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Jan Reedy Subject: Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 16:26:48 -0400 References: <5167F327.3030803@nedbatchelder.com> <518FCF02.9090307@nedbatchelder.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: <518FCF02.9090307@nedbatchelder.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368390607 news.xs4all.nl 16007 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42085 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45201 On 5/12/2013 1:18 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 5/8/2013 10:39 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >>> ...The field needs re-invented and re-centered.[...] >> For anyone who want to be involved. See the wikiwikiweb -- a tool >> that every programmer should know and use -- and these pages: >> ComputerScienceVersionTwo and ObjectOrientedRefactored. > > I've never understood why people use that site: the pages end up being > unintelligible cocktail-party noise-scapes with no hope of understanding > who is saying what, or in response to whom. I certainly found it confusing that something responder and OP comments were in normal text and italic respectively, and sometimes the opposite, and maybe sometimes both in normal types.