Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'doug': 0.04; 'python.': 0.05; 'extracted': 0.05; 'e.g.,': 0.07; 'meantime,': 0.07; 'paths': 0.07; 'suggesting': 0.07; 'though.': 0.07; 'working:': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; '32-bit': 0.09; '>>>>': 0.09; 'args.': 0.09; 'configure.ac': 0.09; 'derived': 0.09; 'gcc': 0.09; 'kinda': 0.09; 'list)': 0.09; 'necessary,': 0.09; 'prefix': 0.09; 'prerequisite': 0.09; 'runtime': 0.09; 'scripts,': 0.09; 'tackle': 0.09; 'files.': 0.10; 'scripts': 0.10; 'configure': 0.11; 'linux': 0.11; '>>>': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'described': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'library': 0.15; '"/"': 0.16; '"bad': 0.16; '$2.': 0.16; '/bin/sh': 0.16; '<--': 0.16; '>&2': 0.16; 'arg': 0.16; 'cflags': 0.16; 'distutils': 0.16; 'esac': 0.16; 'example).': 0.16; 'hack:': 0.16; 'hardcoded': 0.16; 'iirc': 0.16; 'incompatible': 0.16; 'install.': 0.16; 'installer,': 0.16; 'libpython': 0.16; 'root,': 0.16; 'should.': 0.16; 'windows).': 0.16; 'argument': 0.16; 'libraries': 0.16; 'traceback': 0.16; 'tries': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.18; "hasn't": 0.19; 'integrate': 0.19; 'temporary': 0.19; 'variable': 0.21; '(or': 0.22; '(like': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; '(this': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'e.g.': 0.22; 'linux,': 0.22; 'manually': 0.22; 'thu,': 0.22; 'so.': 0.22; '(and': 0.22; 'trying': 0.23; "haven't": 0.23; '(without': 0.23; 'happen.': 0.23; 'set.': 0.23; 'structure': 0.24; 'worked': 0.24; 'calling': 0.25; 'version': 0.25; 'cases': 0.25; 'properly': 0.25; 'specify': 0.25; 'script': 0.26; '(e.g.': 0.26; 'parameters': 0.26; 'windows': 0.26; 'environment': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'instead': 0.26; 'skip:b 20': 0.27; 'pass': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'van': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "doesn't": 0.28; 'thanks': 0.29; 'changing': 0.29; 'skip:- 40': 0.29; 'installed': 0.29; 'problem': 0.29; 'hi,': 0.29; 'sat,': 0.29; 'subject:Windows': 0.29; 'exit': 0.29; 'like.': 0.29; "python's": 0.29; 'rid': 0.29; 'solution.': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; "won't": 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'points': 0.31; 'build,': 0.31; 'compiling': 0.31; 'enabled': 0.31; 'exists,': 0.31; 'far,': 0.31; 'solved': 0.31; 'second': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'it.': 0.31; 'random': 0.31; 'supposed': 0.31; 'perhaps': 0.32; 'import': 0.32; 'skip:- 30': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'done': 0.32; "i've": 0.33; 'yeah.': 0.68; 'proposal': 0.68; 'designed': 0.69; 'below,': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.72; 'reply-to:addr:gmail.com': 0.78; './configure': 0.84; '9:19': 0.84; 'filesystem.': 0.84; 'resistance': 0.84; 'responds': 0.84; 'to:addr:google.com': 0.84; 'evans': 0.91; 'plain-text': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pas/B2GIui0srCVe56D1Q6b1IYfSrTEnrQe3NMtXrxE=; b=gYUpl8We6vBSXy0pSSnt3DiY+5YyEGKh87wZnjBhKl3pGOpLoUrWg4zTF/C/xKo02H 2wi+/6Px0aWP7LGV5vjUkoQyDWuDLvdr2UPM4cpOS+iPQhyhL5NC23DfoSsBqV9rjczW tLLhM01ephrugqAMpyB1Ig6rKhg2bCvnG6o6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KB7ey2xRVZY21fzxWqRFAH9rI3seg6PdAfDRYpwRPGu7eGxICXZuqudW/Cx5u2GaBt JV5Y5vBa9w7/+S3sa6tJTL9yksvvbXXNhBFOARUygc3WAM8GmOgRjYTv+qC2EP5nWTIg xkrhwhydClMbAVz1+zfz9tVuWActnRyyzO394= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:29:57 +0200 Subject: Re: Python enabled gdb on Windows and relocation From: Ruben Van Boxem To: Doug Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: gdb@sourceware.org, python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: vanboxem.ruben@gmail.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 184 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1305462601 news.xs4all.nl 81485 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:48596 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5425 2011/5/14 Doug Evans : > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Ruben Van Boxem > wrote: >> 2011/5/14 Doug Evans : >>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ruben Van Boxem >>> wrote: >>>> (now in plain-text as required by gdb mailing list) >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am currently trying to integrate Python support into my toolchain >>>> build (including GDB of course). It is a sysrooted >>>> binutils+GCC+GDB+mingw-w64 toolchain. >>>> >>>> I currently have the basic setup working: I can link gdb with my >>>> manually generated import lib to the python dll from the official >>>> Windows install. If there is anything I am missing or a very easy >>>> solution to the problems decsribed below, please just say so. I am >>>> only suggesting what I would like to happen. >>>> >>>> Now on to the problems I'd like to discuss: >>>> >>>> 1. gdb.exe won't start without me having set PYTHONPATH manually. >>> >>> In a properly configured/built gdb on linux this isn't necessary, even >>> if python is installed in some random place. >>> I'm not sure about windows though. >>> Did you specify --with-python when you configured gdb, and if so did >>> you specify a value? >>> e.g., --with-python=3DSOME_VALUE >> >> I was cross-compiling a mingw toolchain+gdb from Linux, so I used >> --with-python without a value (because gdb configure tries to find the >> Python executabe), and I added -I"/path/to/python/includes" to CFLAGS >> and -L"/path/to/pythondll/importlib" to LDFLAGS, which built as it >> should. This is hacky though, and gdb configure should provide >> --with-python-libs and --with-python-include to make it more >> streamlined with any other build prerequisite (like >> gmp/mpfr/mpc/cloog/ppl in GCC for example). > > Ah. > Cross-compiling gdb with python is in need of improvement. > Alas python hasn't been designed with cross-compilation in mind (e.g. > build on linux, run on windows). > AIUI, the way to get the parameters required for compiling with > libpython is to get them from python's "distutils": kinda hard to do > in a cross-compile. =C2=A0Done correctly there's no need to run python. > > I haven't done anything more to support python in gdb's configure.ac > because it's not clear to me what the right thing to do is: distutils > provides more than just --libs and --includes (btw, we don't use > --libs though, we use --ldflags which includes all of: the directory > in which to find libpython, the -l for libpython, and the -l's for all > the other libraries python needs). [Which isn't to say that someone > else isn't free to tackle this.] > > In the meantime, what I've been doing is a hack: write a script that > responds to: > --includes > --ldflags > --exec-prefix > and pass that as --with-python. > > E.g. > bash$ cat $HOME/my-python-for-config > #! /bin/sh > > if [ $# -ne 2 ] > then > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0echo "Bad # args. =C2=A0Blech!" >&2 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0exit 1 > fi > > # The first argument is the path to python-config.py, ignore it. > > case "$2" in > --includes) echo "-I/usr/include/python2.6 -I/usr/include/python2.6" ;; > --ldflags) echo "-L/usr/lib/python2.6/config -lpthread -ldl -lutil -lm > -lpython2.6" ;; > --exec-prefix) echo "/usr" ;; > *) echo "Bad arg $2. =C2=A0Blech!" >&2 ; exit 1 ;; > esac > > exit 0 > bash$ ./configure --with-python=3D$HOME/my-python-for-config [...] > [...] > > > Note that --exec-prefix is the runtime location of python. > GCC uses this to tell libpython where to find its support files. > [grep for Py_SetProgramName in gdb/python/python.c] OK, I tried your script in a couple of variations. It gets rid of the traceback I had before, but still doesn't help the PYTHONPATH problem. My directory structure is as follows (this is not in root, "/" is just my main build directory, there are several levels below it): /gdb <-- gdb build dir /gdb/gdb <-- where the python configuration is done /python <-- temporary install dir for python files for build, extracted from the official Windows installer, also location of libpython2.7.a import library /python/include/python27 <-- python headers, found by gdb in both cases /mingw64 <-- toolchain sysroot prefix /mingw64/bin <-- install location of gdb and python27.dll /mingw64/lib/python27 <-- install location of all python scripts First variant: --includes) echo "-I../../python/include" ;; --ldflags) echo "-L../../python -lpython2.7" ;; --exec-prefix) echo "../../mingw64/lib/python27" ;; Here exec-prefix would be the relative path from where "configure" does its magic to the final location of the scripts on the build system. Second variant: --includes) echo "-I../../python/include" ;; --ldflags) echo "-L../../python -lpython2.7" ;; --exec-prefix) echo "../lib/python27" ;; I thought the second points gdb to the installed location of the python scripts, but it still needed PYTHONPATH for that. I used relative paths in an attempt to "do the right thing", hackwise... Remember that the whole "/mingw64" directory gets zipped and moved, then it gets extracted to a random location in the Windows filesystem. Thanks for the help so far, I think we might just get this worked out toget= her. Ruben > >>>> I understand the need for this, but as gdb requires Python 2, and user= s >>>> of my toolchain may have installed Python 3 or a 32-bit version python >>>> they want to use from the same environment (without changing their own >>>> PYTHONPATH), there is no way to run python-enabled gdb. >>>> [...] >>> >>> Yeah. >>> There is a proposal to add GDB_PYTHONPATH (or some such IIRC) and have >>> gdb use that instead of PYTHONPATH if it exists, but there's been >>> resistance to it. >>> I think(!) what would happen is that gdb would set $PYTHONPATH to the >>> value of $GDB_PYTHONPATH. >>> [Inferiors started by gdb should still get the original value of >>> PYTHONPATH though.] >> >> That way would be almost ideal, but a hardcoded *relative* path to the >> python scripts (that is standardized within gdb) wouldn't hurt. > > See above re: --exec-prefix. > >> An >> extra environment variable would require a lot of explaining for >> Windows, and is not "plug-and-play", like the rest of a sysrooted >> toolchain is supposed to be like. I think this should work on all >> setups: >> >> 1. Check hardcoded path; my suggestion would be "> executable>/../lib/python27" >> 2. If this fails to find the necessary files/scripts, find it like you >> described above in Linux, without PYTHONPATH set. >> 3. Check PYTHONPATH. > > The problem being solved by the proposed GDB_PYTHONPATH is "What if > the user has PYTHONPATH set and it points to an incompatible version > of python?". > Leaving such a value for PYTHONPATH set while gdb's python is running > feels wrong (and IIRC has caused some problems). > > The problem of telling python where to find itself is already solved > (or at least is intended to be solved) with gdb's calling > Py_SetProgramName with a value derived from the python-provided > --exec-prefix. > >> I would think only number one would change, and perhaps be only >> enabled with a special configure option. Nothing else would have to >> change, and Windows users would rejoice :) >> Again, this is only my suggestion, if there are problems with it in >> way I haven't thought of, please say so, and we can come up with >> another solution. >