Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'cheers!': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'pages:': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86.74': 0.16; 'received:smtp.webfaction.com': 0.16; 'received:webfaction.com': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'anyone': 0.31; 'tool': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'field': 0.63; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'site:': 0.83; 'involved.': 0.91 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:18:58 -0400 From: Ned Batchelder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Janssen Subject: Re: Message passing syntax for objects | OOPv2 References: <5167F327.3030803@nedbatchelder.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368379142 news.xs4all.nl 15911 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55793 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45191 On 5/8/2013 10:39 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> ...The field needs re-invented and re-centered.[...] > For anyone who want to be involved. See the wikiwikiweb -- a tool > that every programmer should know and use -- and these pages: > ComputerScienceVersionTwo and ObjectOrientedRefactored. I've never understood why people use that site: the pages end up being unintelligible cocktail-party noise-scapes with no hope of understanding who is saying what, or in response to whom. --Ned. > Cheers!