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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:00:03 -0700 (PDT), David Thomas
<dthomas86@me.com> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

> Hi I know that this is a group about Python.  But I am just wondering if anybody can recommend any introductory/good books on Conputer Science.
>

	Ouch... I don't know if I've seen a traditional CompSci text in
decades...

	Data Structures & Program Design; Robert L. Kruse; 1984 Prentice
Hall

{did I say "decades" <G>} Covers lists, trees, sorting, hashing, and
searching (and more). I can mention this one as it sits on the bookcase
next to me. It is predated by (and references in one chapter)

	Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs; Niklaus Wirth; 1976
Prentice Hall

	The book my college used:

	Data Structure and Management; Ivan Flores; 1970 Prentice Hall
(though I think I have the 1977 printing/edition in storage)

{Think if I offer mine for $500 and free shipping it would sell?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0131973355/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
}

	Granted, a language like Python hides a lot from one... Why learn
how to implement hash functions and manage searching in a hashed
structure when Python dictionaries do all that for you -- and with
arbitrary associated values instead of fixed-format records.

	Then, if you really feel masochistic, add in Gio Wiederhold's
database and/or file-system books:

	Database Design 2nd; G. W.; 1983 McGraw-Hill
	File Organization for Database Design; G. W.; 1987 McGraw-Hill

	SQL barely existed; and relational database systems were mostly
experimental... a lot of information on hierarchical and network
systems, with a lot of time spent on how to actually store the data for
retrieval (ISAM, trees, other index schemes).

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