Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 08:58:44 +1000 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85vb3er0bf.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 8wrZqHueYxjLUzY+GcGEcQt5kyEk5H+tIc1VaMU10cuw== Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ze1OkMBYfE/Eiz4UA54HuyLwrJg= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'counting': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'width': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'ignore': 0.14; 'comparable.': 0.16; 'guide.': 0.16; 'justified': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'specifies': 0.18; 'consistent': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'character': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'fixed': 0.31; 'true.': 0.33; "isn't": 0.35; 'lines': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'why': 0.39; 'application': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'maximum': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'limit': 0.65; 'elsewhere': 0.66; 'therefore': 0.67; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; '8bit%:40': 0.72; '_o__)': 0.84; 'civilization': 0.84; 'enlightened': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'western': 0.89 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <85vb3er0bf.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107282 Pete Forman writes: > Why is it that Python continues to use a fixed width font I think you know this isn't true. > and therefore specifies the maximum line width as a character count? and that this “therefore” is not justified by that. You've seen elsewhere the justification for *having* a maximum line width (primarily because of limits on human cognition of lines of text). As for what the limit *is*, it's much better to have an easy-to-apply and easy-to-measure rule, because consistent application is important for such a guide. Counting characters is objectively easy and easily comparable. -- \ “I think Western civilization is more enlightened precisely | `\ because we have learned how to ignore our religious leaders.” | _o__) —Bill Maher, 2003 | Ben Finney