Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Zachary Ware Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: python 351x64 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:18:51 -0600 Lines: 41 Sender: zachary.ware@gmail.com Message-ID: References: <91aa9e024c8f48d6a3212af00b1360a2@EX13-MBX-031.vmware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de rkp1FcqFxg5VTuSllXahjgnawLGZGEYsI6FpPjJFW2OQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'source,': 0.04; 'fixes': 0.05; 'permissions': 0.07; 'likewise': 0.09; 'security.': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'writable': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'received:209.85.218': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'subject:python': 0.14; 'everyone,': 0.15; 'adjusted': 0.16; 'did.': 0.16; 'fix,': 0.16; 'install.': 0.16; 'previously,': 0.16; 'readable': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reproduce': 0.16; 'took,': 0.16; 'uses,': 0.16; 'whatsoever': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.18; 'project,': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'fraction': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; 'patch': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'install': 0.25; 'installed': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'asks': 0.29; 'issues.': 0.29; 'environment': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; "we're": 0.30; 'fixed': 0.31; 'option': 0.31; 'source': 0.33; 'adjust': 0.33; 'choosing': 0.33; 'interaction': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'clear': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'virtual': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'minimum': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'provide': 0.61; 'side': 0.62; 'further': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'between': 0.65; 'believe': 0.66; 'elsewhere': 0.66; 'packages,': 0.66; 'results': 0.66; 'production': 0.67; 'stated': 0.70; 'yourself,': 0.72; 'comment.': 0.91; 'habit': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O9WeT2WsyU9olkNcd2tbWJQqeBrW0ayepWxje5yXckY=; b=jdRsdA+YfYMnxnh0Prl4pFiZUyDGAldKZAeFNnPpU2ffHkvp5y+MjPDDMxA5ZWQmzF w7BOxvj/TsLUBpRio0+pJo+1vUxHIFlcX/bIuhfqny8U3lp0vHPzDgtAamUZMaSGez0M CLs6rgYY3LqU7KyhYx01o/17lo3QEQzxZKMEQ1Cpo2z1oIjb8f97pXPrQIlDt3fhmOxq pCZ2NXyYim1XcmkBKF1XPQO3N8edLaL14vuUWJ0lu9WKDYJyGfR4G4hVbMwtDswGrt+b 9f9YFF9juT4lphZ5y+fyCJNZf+NBs6zii3QLPB+vpuRt4868PWV1vRS6kwOsY6JlDlAX dECw== X-Received: by 10.202.198.132 with SMTP id w126mr14768819oif.10.1449865150555; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:19:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <91aa9e024c8f48d6a3212af00b1360a2@EX13-MBX-031.vmware.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: vzFgte4oEMJ4eMKBrVO8JUHU-mg X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:100301 On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Jay Hamm wrote: > It is an issue that borks your install. That seems like your issue which = involves notepad++. You might want to talk with them about it or more likel= y since they've not fixed it in a while - develop a work around or at least= a message that pops up and asks if they want it fixed so the install succe= eds. Could you describe the steps you took, the results you got, and the result you expected? It's not clear from your description what is broken by what, and not at all clear that there is any interaction whatsoever between Python and Notepad++. Also, we're not in the habit of including workarounds for bugs in software that may or may not be installed on some fraction of systems of one particular platform. > Likewise if you have an option to install for all uses, then it should wo= rk without further intervention. "Install for all users" means "make it readable by all users" rather than "make it writable by all users." As I stated previously, install your package as an administrator if you need it in the global site packages, or use a virtual environment that you have write access to as a non-admin. Or install Python elsewhere (which could be as simple as choosing "install for just me"). Or adjust the permissions you want adjusted yourself, as you apparently did. The installer cannot do everything for everyone, so it does what we believe to be best for most use cases and errs on the side of security. > As for unfair, is this production software or is it a toy? If it is a toy= , I withdraw my comment. It seems to me there is even less call for that. Civility breeds civility, incivility breeds contempt. Python is a volunteer-driven open source project, available to you at no cost and with free community support. If there is a bug to fix, we're happy to fix it, but at bare minimum we need clear steps to reproduce the problem. Being open source, you're also more than welcome to provide a patch that fixes your issues. --=20 Zach