Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'true,': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'bits': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'c/c++': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'patent': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.10; 'from:addr:tyler': 0.16; 'from:addr:tysdomain.com': 0.16; 'from:name:littlefield, tyler': 0.16; 'jerry': 0.16; 'message-id:@tysdomain.com': 0.16; 'received:69.164': 0.16; 'received:69.164.206': 0.16; 'received:69.164.206.65': 0.16; 'received:tds-solutions.net': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'trying': 0.21; 'java': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'machine': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'run': 0.28; 'project:': 0.29; 'url:code': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'server.': 0.32; 'running': 0.32; 'anyone': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'client': 0.36; 'bad': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'relatively': 0.62; 'url:p': 0.63; 'worth': 0.63; 'ever': 0.63; 'unauthorized': 0.65; 'protect': 0.69; 'sounds': 0.71; 'yourself': 0.77; '9:19': 0.84; 'light-weight': 0.84; 'subject:source': 0.84; 'care,': 0.91; 'hill': 0.96 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wuff X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:56:30 -0600 From: "Littlefield, Tyler" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sturla@molden.no Subject: Re: Python source code easy to hack? References: <0023d73b-00f6-4d82-b68b-eb28f4587ab1@googlegroups.com> <04a311f6-9162-40d6-8fc7-acc0b0128bc8@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <04a311f6-9162-40d6-8fc7-acc0b0128bc8@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348847806 news.xs4all.nl 6939 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33016 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:30411 On 9/28/2012 9:19 AM, sturla@molden.no wrote: > kl. 16:38:10 UTC+2 fredag 28. september 2012 skrev Jerry Hill følgende: > >> This is true, but both java and .net are also relatively easy to decompile. > Neither of them are very "obfuscated". > > >> In general though, why does it matter? > Paranoia among managers? > > >> What are you trying to protect yourself against? Embarassment? Patent trolls? Unauthorized access to priviledged features? Industrial espionage? Sounds like a web solution is the best way. Use a thin client and run your NSA-level code on a server. It's worth pointing out though that even c/c++ isn't free. If someone wants to decompile or disassemble your code bad enough, it's going to happen. >> If you must keep anyone from ever seeing how your code works, the only way to do that is to keep all the sensitive bits running on a machine that you control. > Indeed :) > > > > Sturla -- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net The aspen project: a barebones light-weight mud engine: http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.