Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'posted': 0.15; 'any.': 0.16; 'cons': 0.16; 'continual': 0.16; 'drooling': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'squad.': 0.16; 'subject:default': 0.16; 'umpteen': 0.16; 'usable': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'usability': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '(or': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'second': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'requests': 0.31; 'quotes': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'eye': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'world.': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'email addr:yahoo.com': 0.64; 'due': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'caused': 0.69; 'default': 0.69; 'peter,': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'strain': 0.84; 'streams': 0.84; 'subject:Don': 0.91; 'numerous': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Don't use default Google Group client (was re:....) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:19:14 +0100 References: <6f2b7$525f2302$5419b3e4$13466@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <13f400f3-7f64-45e3-8483-160fd1f28158@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-201-160.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382746773 news.xs4all.nl 15973 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56267 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57579 On 26/10/2013 00:44, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote: > On 10/25/2013 02:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> On 10/25/2013 2:57 PM, Peter Cacioppi wrote: >>> The default >>> Google Group client is notoriously cruddy with quotes attribution. >> >> So don't use it. Get any decent newsreader, such as Thunderbird, and >> access the list at news.gmane.org as gmane.comp.python.general. > > Peter, you can ignore Terry's "advice" if Google Groups works for you. > There are a small number of Google haters here who seem larger due to > their obnoxious noisiness. > > I've been using Google Groups to post here for many years and with a > little care it is usable without annoying anyone except a few drooling > fanatics. All access methods have pros and cons (and I've posted here > about many of TB numerous cons) so if the usability tradeoff favors > GG for you (or anyone else) I recommend you not be intimidated by > the anti-GG goon squad. > Thunderbird cons - I've never known any. Google groups cons - continual streams of messages on a daily basis that are double spaced despite umpteen requests to follow instructions so the crap doesn't get repeated. Just how difficult is it? Are you prepared to pay for my new glasses, as the eye strain caused by google crap really does get to me. Goon squad indeed!!! -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence