Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'string.': 0.04; '"""': 0.05; 'binary': 0.05; 'bytes.': 0.07; 'chunk': 0.07; 'dependency': 0.07; 'reason,': 0.07; 'subject:skip:b 10': 0.07; '"""return': 0.09; 'bytes,': 0.09; 'docs.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'producing': 0.15; 'sat,': 0.15; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'hexadecimal': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'newsgroups': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174.133': 0.16; 'received:boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:edu.au': 0.16; 'received:harvey.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'str),': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'textual': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fix': 0.17; 'byte': 0.17; 'bytes': 0.17; 'instance,': 0.17; 'feb': 0.19; 'do.': 0.21; 'converted': 0.22; 'doc': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'str': 0.29; 'though.': 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'sense': 0.31; 'clear': 0.35; 'returning': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'data.': 0.36; 'received:au': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'operating': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; '(for': 0.37; 'data': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'content- disposition:inline': 0.60; 'course.': 0.62; 'between': 0.63; 'necessarily': 0.63; 'subject:...': 0.63; 'natural': 0.65; 'taking': 0.65; 'special': 0.73; '2013': 0.84; '_if_': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84; 'subject: ...': 0.84; 'str.': 0.91 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:32:20 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: python3 binascii.hexlify ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1360441945 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57695 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:38538 On 09Feb2013 22:26, Chris Angelico wrote: | On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> wrote: | > """Return the hexadecimal representation of the binary data. Every byte of | > data is converted into the corresponding 2-digit hex representation. | > """ | > | > makes it pretty clear that the function is operating on bytes, not str. Well of course. I want a hexadecimal string representation of a chunk of bytes. It should be producing a string. | That doesn't necessarily mean it has to return bytes, though. It's | taking binary data and producing something that's plausibly either | bytes or str. It's human-readable and would definitely make sense to | be str (for instance, hex() returns a str), so imo this should be made | very clear in the docs. Maybe: | | """Return the hexadecimal representation of the binary data. Every byte of | data is converted into two bytes with the corresponding hex | representation in ASCII. | """ | | or somesuch? Only if returning a string would break something relying on hexlify returning bytes. The natural way to write this function is to have it return a string. _If_ there's some dependency in the stdlib, maybe a doc fix would do. But otherwise IMO the function should be returning a string. What is the use case for returning bytes that just _look_ like a string? It is returning a textual representation; without a good reason, that should be a string. -- Cameron Simpson Because of its special customs, crossposting between alt.peeves and normal newsgroups is discouraged. - Cameron Spitzer