Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'ascii': 0.07; 'character,': 0.07; 'closer': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '*any*': 0.16; 'called,': 0.16; 'editors,': 0.16; 'encoding)': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'yet...': 0.16; 'input': 0.18; '(or': 0.22; 'jan': 0.22; 'code': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'ancient': 0.23; 'windows': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; '(in': 0.27; 'problem': 0.29; 'matches': 0.29; 'unicode': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; 'os,': 0.31; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.32; 'test': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'first.': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'point': 0.35; 'progress.': 0.35; 'rather': 0.36; 'getting': 0.36; 'keyboard': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'url:org': 0.38; 'so,': 0.38; 'used': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'here,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'whatever': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'here:': 0.61; 'easy,': 0.68; 'hundred': 0.74; 'news': 0.77; 'glyph': 0.84; 'ime': 0.84; 'tied': 0.84; 'url:educational': 0.84; 'fonts': 0.91; 'greek': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: unicode by default Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:26:53 -0400 References: <874o50k1eb.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <3ae7c960dc8cf622fcf95aa48ed9df40.squirrel@webmail.lexicon.net> <492f8500-fd53-4b52-bd7b-cd90a3118d38@k16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1305404825 news.xs4all.nl 81479 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:40622 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5384 On 5/14/2011 3:41 AM, harrismh777 wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: >> Easy, practical use of unicode is still a work in progress. > > Apparently... the good news for me is that SBL provides their unicode > font here: > > http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/biblicalfonts.aspx > > I'm getting much closer here, but now the problem is typing. The pain > with unicode fonts is that the glyph is tied to the code point for the > represented character, and not tied to any code point that matches any > keyboard scan code for typing. :-} > > So, I can now see the ancient text with accents and aparatus in all of > my editors, but I still cannot type any ancient Greek with my > keyboard... because I have to make up a keymap first. > > I don't find that SBL (nor Logos Software) has provided keymaps as > yet... rats. You need what is called, at least with Windows, an IME -- Input Method Editor. These are part of (or associated with) the OS, so they can be used with *any* application that will accept unicode chars (in whatever encoding) rather than just ascii chars. Windows has about a hundred or so, including Greek. I do not know if that includes classical Greek with the extra marks. > I can read the test with Python though... yessss. -- Terry Jan Reedy