Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'parser': 0.07; 'prefix': 0.07; 'accepts': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'unexpected': 0.09; '"b"': 0.16; '"u"': 0.16; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'message-id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'py3': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:created': 0.16; 'subject:python2.7': 0.16; 'subject:python3': 0.16; 'subject:seperate': 0.16; 'subject:where': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'stefan': 0.17; 'earlier': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; '(see': 0.27; '(as': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'preceding': 0.29; 'subject: ?': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'drop': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'supports': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'subject:there': 0.65; 'consequences': 0.71; 'revival': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Serhiy Storchaka Subject: Re: Why has python3 been created as a seperate language where there is still python2.7 ? Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:08:07 +0300 References: <1340509604.38915.YahooMailClassic@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4fe92df1$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4FEADFB4.5090301@stackless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 37.115.41.68 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1340824080 news.xs4all.nl 6952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38464 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:24533 On 27.06.12 14:22, Stefan Behnel wrote: > For comparison, the revival of the "u" string prefix in Py3.3 is a simple > change in the parser grammar that's easy to maintain but that has a huge > impact on the Py3 compatibility of code that accepts to drop support for > Py2.5 and earlier (as well as Py3.[012]) but wants to keep working in > Py2.[67] (which supports the opposite "b" prefix). And even this simple change has caused unexpected issues (see issues #15054 and #15096), which were not predicted by the preceding stormy discussion. IMHO, the negative consequences of this change are undervalued.