Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.068 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'humour': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reflects': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'unicode,': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'producing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'world,': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'knowledge': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'shows': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'compliant': 0.68; 'incorporate': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'carefully': 0.74; 'secret': 0.74; 'lack': 0.78; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'fortunately,': 0.84; 'joke,': 0.84; 'laid': 0.84; 'recently:': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Unicode humor Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 13:40:58 +0100 References: <3e870f17-e7f5-4bcf-b848-f1947bad6859@k5g2000vbq.googlegroups.com> <518D1134.40708@nedbatchelder.com> <1d320295-df6a-4feb-9921-0d6cce7f68a2@yb1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-174-199.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130511-0, 11/05/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368276077 news.xs4all.nl 15921 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37794 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45137 On 10/05/2013 17:25, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi wrote: >> On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: >>>> On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: >>> >>>>> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith wrote: >>> >>>>>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on >>>>>> recently: >>> >>>>>> http://xkcd.com/1209/ >>> >>>>> ------ >>> >>>>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. >>> >>>>> jmf >>> >>>> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) >>> >>> Isn't that a crime in the UK? >>> >>> ChrisA >> >> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that >> its not unicode compliant > > Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour. > In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's > possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English > joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can > result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that > come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then > get to laugh at them. > > ChrisA > This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python unicode, at least in 3.3+. I wouldn't mind betting that other languages can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even the Germans die laughing? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence