Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.316 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.47; '*S*': 0.10; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'humour': 0.16; 'reflects': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'producing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'actual': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'knowledge': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'possible': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'compliant': 0.68; 'incorporate': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'carefully': 0.74; 'lack': 0.78; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'fortunately,': 0.84; 'joke,': 0.84; 'laid': 0.84; 'recently:': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gGhZNhSWMm2sNA4u3eLJJIr/g+kbwjl9oaIdUntKk+s=; b=H4Gj8O+xaygeqULqSqWv87RQSVjnyJc0O7Yj5b1DA96zYDyXA9uozt/iSxXZdFbbat pfkBHdBbo7oCCTnDcmqnZdYwcqDGeCFbsS/JRBXj5D0xfRCaVLlfHvsYMZxi3gTSvPS6 y0EXfplj8ro3KxFCN6iQbtq534uyrrUu8nn1ZvQpajIxsbpL03U2DzdxlrGRTFvFy28k T5h/wAgKvJBR8jVdpGJ14jhEPF4h2801T9Tj0u5rdk2k9N2AXaeQrecb4Bld7boUprO7 iARcX5mW/2tmHm1KUQf8Rkb3dlWXtSpUrxYeGAmn+S88K4tMaOlVzhtyFglZyZCKKYwV GmkQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.120.83 with SMTP id la19mr9823182vdb.58.1368203146599; Fri, 10 May 2013 09:25:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1d320295-df6a-4feb-9921-0d6cce7f68a2@yb1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> References: <3e870f17-e7f5-4bcf-b848-f1947bad6859@k5g2000vbq.googlegroups.com> <518D1134.40708@nedbatchelder.com> <1d320295-df6a-4feb-9921-0d6cce7f68a2@yb1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 02:25:46 +1000 Subject: Re: Unicode humor From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 May 2013 14:05:53 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368273954 news.xs4all.nl 15867 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45140 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi wrote: > On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> > On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: >> >> >> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith wrote: >> >> >>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on >> >>> recently: >> >> >>>http://xkcd.com/1209/ >> >> >> ------ >> >> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. >> >> >> jmf >> >> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) >> >> Isn't that a crime in the UK? >> >> ChrisA > > The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that > its not unicode compliant Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour. In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then get to laugh at them. ChrisA