Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'see.': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'grounds': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'examples': 0.20; 'memory': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'ph.d.': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'tim': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'subject:end': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'explains': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'starting': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'christian': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'expect': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'referred': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'providing': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'chance': 0.65; 'bot': 0.84; 'capability': 0.84; 'learn.': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'textbook': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; 'technique': 0.93; 'university.': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python Front-end to GCC Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 21:36:42 +0100 References: <4012031f-5334-4be8-a673-e0d8c8917fb2@googlegroups.com> <526668e5$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52669852$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5266aa80$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5266b496$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <526A81A4.4040100@nedbatchelder.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-201-160.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382733426 news.xs4all.nl 15996 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46101 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57560 On 25/10/2013 21:11, Tim Delaney wrote: > On 26 October 2013 06:18, Mark Janssen > wrote: > > > As for the hex value for Nan who really gives a toss? The whole > point is > > that you initialise to something that you do not expect to see. > Do you not > > have a text book that explains this concept? > > No, I don't think there is a textbook that explains such a concept of > initializing memory to anything but 0 -- UNLESS you're from Stupid > University. > > Thanks for providing fodder... > > > I know I'm replying to a someone who has trolled many threads over > multiple years ... or as I'm now starting to suspect, possibly a bot, > but I'll give him (it?) this one chance to show the capability to read > and learn. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak > > Search for 0xBAADF00D; 0xBADDCAFE; and (in particular) OxDEADBEEF. These > are historical examples of this technique used by major companies. > > Tim Delaney > > I can't see it being a bot on the grounds that a bot wouldn't be smart enough to snip a URL that referred to itself as a quack. Mind you, the thought of a bot with a Ph.D. is mind boggling. Must have been an absolutely amazing sheep dip to have graduated from, but the Bruces were incredible professors :) Thanks for the link by the way. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence