Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeeder.ewetel.de!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.104 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'see.': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'examples': 0.20; 'memory': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'tim': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'subject:end': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'explains': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'starting': 0.37; 'anything': 0.39; 'expect': 0.39; 'major': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'providing': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'chance': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'capability': 0.84; 'learn.': 0.84; 'textbook': 0.84; 'technique': 0.93; 'university.': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Spq14BRVQM8ClxNAkY4oX1c/qoOOZ0sr3O3q8ss4XGc=; b=gkZ9y8p3htmknAJVboSjjQKldFvizOSr9hvU78YJAWeO3tc/Tci3MTCUAVKp5o/0oS 6+grXd7cnvsgIrcRTNqDJDTikc8dtO+batvkLAVmvY9MXxw48uMnP0XMYkV9VNh6mULq QqXGxxRpIJG9KAP5d0CucSirzstSnsZUUNHTq85+kcOp+Rv16XbNdWWESUG8Qdut3/Mq 1PJf/YkaXmzI4KMrrjJLnAZZ/ElJ5O0dFGocjNFGafOpDDio07ik9e3lmeABuIwMFPUl iG6JD3bVxSD9IpN/iKUSH1lBCoE8eeQ5dJPMRSOFDjviDdXvp1fBPLAo3IT8EhyI2ws/ oz1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.134.14 with SMTP id pg14mr3043446oeb.66.1382731862250; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:11:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4012031f-5334-4be8-a673-e0d8c8917fb2@googlegroups.com> <5264dbbe$0$30000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5265bba8$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <526668e5$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52669852$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5266aa80$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5266b496$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <526A81A4.4040100@nedbatchelder.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 07:11:02 +1100 Subject: Re: Python Front-end to GCC From: Tim Delaney To: Mark Janssen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b472868781cd404e996597b Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 62 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382732271 news.xs4all.nl 15926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39542 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57558 --047d7b472868781cd404e996597b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 26 October 2013 06:18, Mark Janssen wrote: > > As for the hex value for Nan who really gives a toss? The whole point is > > that you initialise to something that you do not expect to see. Do you > not > > have a text book that explains this concept? > > No, I don't think there is a textbook that explains such a concept of > initializing memory to anything but 0 -- UNLESS you're from Stupid > University. > > Thanks for providing fodder... > I know I'm replying to a someone who has trolled many threads over multiple years ... or as I'm now starting to suspect, possibly a bot, but I'll give him (it?) this one chance to show the capability to read and learn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak Search for 0xBAADF00D; 0xBADDCAFE; and (in particular) OxDEADBEEF. These are historical examples of this technique used by major companies. Tim Delaney --047d7b472868781cd404e996597b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2= 6 October 2013 06:18, Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> As for the hex value for Nan who re= ally gives a toss? =C2=A0The whole point is
> that you initialise to something that you do not expect to see. =C2=A0= Do you not
> have a text book that explains this concept?

No, I don't think there is a textbook that explains such a concep= t of
initializing memory to anything but 0 -- UNLESS you're from Stupid
University.

Thanks for providing fodder...

I know I= 'm replying to a someone who has trolled many threads over multiple yea= rs ... or as I'm now starting to suspect, possibly a bot, but I'll = give him (it?) this one chance to show the capability to read and learn.


Search for 0x= BAADF00D; 0xBADDCAFE; and (in particular) OxDEADBEEF. These are historical = examples of this technique used by major companies.

Tim Delaney
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