Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: the global keyword: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:29:17 -0400 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5766ADB1.6070907@rece.vub.ac.be> <5767D023.3000708@rece.vub.ac.be> <5767de77$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1466429357.2588517.642905033.340E5404@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de nQxzJcW9q2X4L4Mpo4eVjQOAV/IcsLKh/65ic3HglUQw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; '(except': 0.05; 'correct.': 0.07; 'imply': 0.07; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'defended': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; "others'": 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4.27': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:out3-smtp.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.27; 'position.': 0.30; 'anyone': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'instances': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'except': 0.34; "isn't": 0.35; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'wrong': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'claim': 0.61; 'header :Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'is.': 0.63; '20,': 0.66; 'nonsense.': 0.84; 'subject::': 0.85; 'absolutely': 0.88; '"that\'s': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=owqahRgGP2psetcicxJD9stLm5E=; b=b8WUBJ HOxJfuJXyIURh+vdif/lJguTIonueHRq3irurOeWucdvIh2pvyQVYh6BJ6RNUgqL 6TIHC1VLLbFM8W6Q6uhrPsJwYFP+aJyWAJgYNCTFDfy0FZYNHGS13gAh8LEzku+D 0NMb3uXKV1xa0WXhdfeASkLzesEou/aEyJ/mM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=owqahRgGP2psetc icxJD9stLm5E=; b=eObelo/iOH3x/mJKbWtLISm7vn6yy0m/4pEnm2h2QpKFXTO +6Cupm5a9ktv2kX3nBPaCqxfwZMyD2SfgbXmtxNNaJUzIkEXVK3BKOuG7kVH5hnG oFA8JJFsECiCVNzxyOEMQ7wY9shawowo6orMdli5/kJNz/hgJ0XYM6+XTIBg= X-Sasl-Enc: B/v3BYtxjGtyvfHnMuzO2FS3652KXJ44Uuz2Q250s7wS 1466429357 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-eb8588c4 In-Reply-To: <5767de77$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1466429357.2588517.642905033.340E5404@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5766ADB1.6070907@rece.vub.ac.be> <5767D023.3000708@rece.vub.ac.be> <5767de77$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110196 On Mon, Jun 20, 2016, at 08:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Bart didn't say anyone had defended it. He made an observation: > > "that's a good illustration of why 'y' isn't a name reference to 'x'" > > which is factually correct. And this does refer to the "ducks limp" > thread. Except it doesn't. Because no-one on that thread made the claim that it is. There's absolutely nothing in the thread (except maybe earlier instances of him and you misrepresenting others' claims) about 'y' being a name reference to 'x', so there's nothing in that thread for it to reasonably refer to. > Nothing he said was wrong or objectionable, and he didn't imply that > anyone was taking the opposite position. Nonsense.