Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.079 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.84; '*S*': 0.00; 'indicates': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.11; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'entry-level': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'oklahoma': 0.16; '\xa0this': 0.16; 'subject:list': 0.22; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'received:209.85.161.46': 0.26; 'received :mail-fx0-f46.google.com': 0.26; "i'll": 0.26; 'classes': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "doesn't": 0.28; 'url:edu': 0.28; 'received:209.85.161': 0.29; 'fri,': 0.29; 'exit': 0.29; 'entry': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'idea': 0.32; 'there': 0.35; 'but,': 0.35; 'kids': 0.35; 'url:ac': 0.35; 'url:uk': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; '13,': 0.60; '2011': 0.62; 'taught': 0.65; '10:47': 0.84; 'observed': 0.84; '\xa0but': 0.84; 'url:inf': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FFFRQUa8eRZ1leQCZ60mdAbUc8Q3uUFqNLJb4CL+lgs=; b=xYpn6FjH0pkHb2CZswPfMxWgMxk2IfiLdxjsk7LmrY1LsTNrGTpCeckkGSBkzd8WGd vBkAJbkzXsMgaFfYpu2nLq1+E2ZYj87Rcd+HQfwSj8FxTwtNz88jbTYwWCPEfhOy7Qum sDDn99HgXxv/VBiOsV/rC0JW6rmiiyO7yL8+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ELQASKG8D0QGIPMld4/Kb66CjAFDmTRY0Kld6xL2M6KTIdViu25VyMev++bopFD0xa AWcFZtX9mN0gk6IRFdomSIh437EOU7swYLaI6yBQFgK/Cz634J7oSgNpCBKs/FPROZsM QrJKzg8Q3TpAC+DYoyppmJPR+EJdd+lfKJ430= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9hYwp.5805$xo2.3333@newsfe07.iad> <4dc502c7$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8354770a-d69d-4132-b0ba-2d610eab2fe7@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <4dcb7a8d$0$29973$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <25a7c6d9-5d60-4528-8eaf-e6d0e73dfd1d@17g2000prr.googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 00:14:59 -0600 Subject: Re: checking if a list is empty To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1305353732 news.xs4all.nl 81482 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:57759 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5338 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM, harrismh777 wro= te: > http://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/inf1/fp/ > > http://www.cs.ou.edu/~rlpage/fpclassSpring97/ > > > There are lots of these... =A0 the two above afaik are still doing this a= t the > entry level... =A0 =A0... supposedly, these kids are 'mostly' successful = and > exit interviews are great... =A0but that doesn't fit with the observed id= ea > that students are not doing well in comp sci classes generally... but, re= ad > below... =A0this at the entry level?? I'll grant you Edinburgh. That Oklahoma syllabus is from 1997. The 2010 syllabus for the entry-level course indicates that it is taught in Java.