Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.09; 'namespace': 0.09; 'assume': 0.11; 'language': 0.14; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'honesty': 0.16; "isn't.": 0.16; 'recognise': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'variable.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; "shouldn't": 0.17; 'variables': 0.17; 'module': 0.19; 'example': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'idea': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'stuff': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'computing': 0.32; 'johnson': 0.32; 'programming,': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'knowledge': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'telling': 0.61; 'hear': 0.63; 'rick': 0.91; 'suffer': 0.91 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:25:15 -0700 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: PyWart: Namespace asinitiy and the folly of the global statement References: <02ced8e2-5967-4ce0-b257-83c3a3fbaf8e@googlegroups.com> <5114e577$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <5114e577$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1360383926 news.xs4all.nl 6910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34488 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:38495 On 02/08/2013 04:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Rick Johnson wrote: >> Of course in this simplistic example we can see that count is @ module >> level > > But it isn't. It is a local variable. > > Rick, I appreciate your honesty in telling us that you have no idea how to > read Python code and recognise which namespace the variables are found in, > but you really shouldn't assume others suffer under that same affliction. Very interesting to hear the crickets chirping over this one as the trolling continues on another thread. Rick seems to know his stuff about Tk programming, but his knowledge of programming language theory and formal computing seems quite informal.