Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Mark Lawrence Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Encapsulation in Python Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 04:36:04 +0000 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <56E17985.7060002@benmezger.nl> <6984dafc-fffd-4d46-a173-421bb5c142d2@googlegroups.com> <4ddc3696-3f71-4598-98a6-929267f51fb9@googlegroups.com> <56e53cd3$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1376c684-2e7f-417a-9683-e47789f019fe@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de sqykyBC0P0bDt+sfd+q0zgwn0n8Rc2cUFlPYNzx9dpxw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'threads,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; '2016': 0.16; 'appear.': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; "he'd": 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'not,': 0.22; 'so.': 0.22; 'year,': 0.22; 'gather': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'rid': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'example': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'away.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; '15,': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; '"the': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'surely': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'previous': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'trouble': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'asking': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'week.': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; "they're": 0.66; 'afraid': 0.67; 'everybody': 0.67; 'again?': 0.84; 'calm': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'rue': 0.84; 'whereby': 0.84; 'story.': 0.96; 'subject:skip:E 10': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.234.129.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104914 On 15/03/2016 00:56, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Same old story. BartC spouts drivel, just like the RUE, or Nick "The >> Webmaster" Greek, I'm in trouble for pointing it out. When he provides some >> *EVIDENCE* to back up his claims then I'll more than happily back off. I do >> not intend holding my breath, and I do not intend backing off. The Python >> community cannot let itself get into a position whereby crap is spewed by >> people and they're allowed to get away with it. You lot might also be >> gutless cowards like he is, I'm not, and you might gather I'm not afraid to >> say so. >> >> For example asking for benchmarks that back up his claims is exactly like >> asking the RUE for evidence to support his claims regarding the FSR, they >> simply never appear. Why not? > > Asking for evidence is not against the CoC. It's *how* you are asking. > There has been more vitriol and acrimony on this list in the past week > than probably the entire previous year, and much of it has come from > your keyboard. > > Perhaps you should take a few steps back, mute a few of these threads, > and don't respond to BartC for the next week. Let matters calm down a > little, particularly in your own head. The list will appreciate it. > > ChrisA > If everybody else would not respond to him he'd go away. We had to wait something like 18 months to get rid of the RUE, surely we don't have to go through that pain again? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence