Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'exists.': 0.07; 'modes': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '"0"': 0.16; '>that': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'write,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'greg': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'right.': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'thus': 0.29; 'purchased': 0.30; 'easier': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'know.': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:211': 0.38; 'legally': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'day.': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'listening': 0.74; 'music': 0.75; 'lack': 0.78; 'subject:skip:o 10': 0.84; 'url:politics': 0.84; 'url:cid': 0.91; 'url:comments': 0.91; 'url:sid': 0.93 Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:29:33 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: Greg Ewing Subject: Re: object.enable() anti-pattern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <518C29AD.7070302@canterbury.ac.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: <518C29AD.7070302@canterbury.ac.nz> X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=BPvrNysG c=1 sm=1 a=wom5GMh1gUkA:10 a=GCTqkX7shA8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=KPWSBcU8E6wA:10 a=9sSjY8p1AAAA:8 a=TrBy58xVHN2oOUk0MdYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ChdAjXE5lkUvdteQbhpnkQ==:117 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1368144164 news.xs4all.nl 15891 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52725 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:45068 On 10May2013 10:56, Greg Ewing wrote: | Cameron Simpson wrote: | >You open a file with "0" modes, so | >that it is _immediately_ not writable. Other attempts to make the | >lock file thus fail because of the lack of write, | | I don't think that's quite right. You open it with | O_CREAT+O_EXCL, which atomically fails if the file | already exists. The read/write modes don't really | come into it, as far as I know. Interesting. That is more direct. My understanding that it was enough to create the file with 0 modes. Maybe either will do. Must check... Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson Piracy gets easier every day, but listening to legally purchased music gets harder by the day. Firehed - http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=179175&cid=14846089