Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Sivan Greenberg Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:35:25 +0300 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Q1oMBNz48Qsw6XxbIUU8AgwP302kdfOHy04SXf3kF0yw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'width': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'length.': 0.09; 'rigorous': 0.09; '*only*': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'email addr:udel.edu>': 0.16; 'email name:<tjreedy': 0.16; 'pep8': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'all,': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'visible': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'coding': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'larry': 0.29; 'screen.': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'especially': 0.32; 'screen': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'windows.': 0.33; 'worked': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'lines': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'depends': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'received:209.85.220': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'side': 0.62; 'matter': 0.63; 'companies': 0.63; 'judge': 0.66; 'prefers': 0.84; 'ugly,': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vitakka-co.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=/z/180SCTLosMxOmZhsfFFf/b+EoQIYb4CeL+rQMPLQ=; b=1oXy/yQfY9rWf3zDBA35UHiXYX1632YDlgWTZOq0SpR4/X1N2d492aP/F369v2s8Ll YXN9pfZEIoQaqqoq4ui1znxqXib20RiFfeYpItYLVCaOue1BmHWBhzd9DhJD4Ao7hts4 ZYzotbD7IUFwE4Fm/5jrJ9wnxow79GLdGDcL/7qDvtMlL6YEnzCLMk6zIibzBTWdmJvG e3WLa6JjQT6mVyekEYrLenB9mTuUs6lwAebgxCxNvyGtBKmEZLTO9nIDRToJyXdq6SeR Xs+Jt+zlKLK/isX3hsRpRug92yqKU4n/LDjcpZnUAFZKYgDAUEusjtgCDzeeI7qp3Ki9 iGHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=/z/180SCTLosMxOmZhsfFFf/b+EoQIYb4CeL+rQMPLQ=; b=DSBKSQKvVz/wxm9HrGRXY6UVPtBX91Rhw3uUJVTRJ28jCs5ir7U6SoVZK6XhEZUbu2 voDq4quU9obUTqvJLUy6sM0bEN8cBUzhT9gguZEu4EJrjGHqFqKTiNt06HmiD4Ov3cwi FyDPCzodfb/HNEs4MFRZ73CijfgdphLi6vTPkhytu3GKiT3KGXYCGnqnEbxFyVpoHO9R qlYB1M40c9Fo6ca7UX/svoMdZFcJuxfLz/1vU+lfFDh3fISepXjblozJM1zNF4ILrX8Y 9yqNRGaUy3wrpZW3PeuGjeq1c4MXnMCTGEXB9RzARHswVbTGMNKLvhEkJPuXJHWs0QkO B3Bg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWf75oUc3a2lAs7+i6dKIXGNQW5S+a9DEGULpEBZ+vvOVD/Z7hYkIJod97Nk3rhE5qdEeq0FXcv/fce1w== X-Received: by 10.55.198.149 with SMTP id s21mr44990074qkl.61.1460986525271; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 06:35:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [84.109.37.98] In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107270 On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/16/2016 12:58 PM, Larry Martell wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Marko Rauhamaa >> wrote: >> >>> Larry Martell : >>> >>> I have worked for many companies where you are required to get a clean >>>> run of pep8 on your code before your pull request will even be >>>> considered for approval. I don't agree with this at all, as I think it >>>> makes the code very ugly, especially enforcing the max line length. >>>> >>> >>> Agh, I was with you until your last remark. >>> >>> A max line length of 79 characters is among the *only* rigorous >>> principles I judge coding style on. >>> >>> It comes with the maxim that one function must be visible at once on the >>> screen. >>> >> >> if we still had 1970's 80 character TTYs that would matter but on my >> 29" 1920x1080 screen it doesn't. >> > > It depends on whether one prefers to use the extra width to have long > lines or side-by-side windows. I prefer the latter. That's my use case as well, and why I admire the forethought in the width length. Side by side windows rock when doing TTD. -Sivan