Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Encapsulation in Python Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:14:11 +1100 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <56E17985.7060002@benmezger.nl> <6984dafc-fffd-4d46-a173-421bb5c142d2@googlegroups.com> <4ddc3696-3f71-4598-98a6-929267f51fb9@googlegroups.com> <56e53cd3$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1376c684-2e7f-417a-9683-e47789f019fe@googlegroups.com> <56e76e09$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de scSF+s8AFa/wHDqPZvVGfAsVnrj3gX8axW8minpUDhkA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; '(without': 0.09; 'declarations': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; '"python': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'agreed,': 0.16; 'continual': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'saying': 0.22; "aren't": 0.22; 'either.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'code.': 0.23; '(or': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'developers': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '15,': 0.30; 'rules': 0.31; 'core': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'actions': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'wrong': 0.38; 'goes': 0.39; 'mark': 0.40; 'more': 0.63; 'face': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; 'repeat': 0.67; 'opinions': 0.71; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'subject:skip:E 10': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=VVs0YUqD0FGw6f/60xrThIUYmh+DGhW2bR/7p4etv44=; b=tT/kWiMhRCRVDTTXwqvwnXdig61B394Gi/F2oFlax29UAmO+0+M5rZ0k6ICFegfuS7 V0WOYsIvIwXof4uOymXjoSc9RjkfDpxqgxTtcq0LMnLH0U4M4TPap8iVfugC8dBq/pO4 3tRtHPG+tS7FRnpONjk55imo8MtDCbQqddFGGkBmXwnYuiHpS1z7VBWuMTjzbjBtZQhW vJ67eoZWkQjDMGE3Bi8h02RKVCfeMtFTQ47swNeXfJFLgBIBzfAVcl1hPIT3zE8oqDsz FG9qBIzg/pTwk2XHg6XCATQhT2lfkMUdAobIN51Ep1VhmcA+g7/gKeORpbA/LapmFbay KnrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=VVs0YUqD0FGw6f/60xrThIUYmh+DGhW2bR/7p4etv44=; b=jV2wRALwKj9IjJEhm9xz6TFOyG4Kmh6FMSr4/o4D5kBhyfM6CBw2F6mtZmL6GSP1BN UygGylwljj3uTIUb5O9geg/rVWivJAt+xYyC9XPOgZwQ193SfyhC3lLUAi5TJbJR6JM0 T5JmAcMRHUf22k1qF4IatFyqCEQ6rbPaMUGo0MzzonJizHDeGc4+ItMnybyum0/hqB1D Ujn+D9VVKLzdAc9BHs21rMpI3/cwnt03Ppbp5AQeAnvlDPvBRNuZzq2BnvBZewpeWT0F Zm/s+LgCQV2pIxc0R66B9wGdLx45bewiTQWzViRcAh4/fkxyJRGRSUfBWTzFPy9oPmPi vNRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIA28saRY/fiNkVhvdtoEQ4APtZRhPljU0wsqUATRcGbNVK6zLh64uNveJB2MFlVVLb5KDhK3sEYBY/9A== X-Received: by 10.50.43.168 with SMTP id x8mr21360963igl.92.1458008051874; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:14:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56e76e09$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104910 On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:25 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Mark should be aware that, yes, his >> actions are not in line with the CoC. > > > Mark's *technical opinions* are not in line with the Python community or the > core developers either. > > His continual declarations that "python is fast enough" goes against the > community and core developers who are always looking for ways of speeding > up Python (without compromising on either functionality or > backwards-compatibility). It astonishes me that he could repeat this > nonsense over and over again in the face of evidence of multiple active > projects to get more speed out of Python code. Agreed, but there's nothing in the rules of this forum (or any other that I frequent) saying that you aren't allowed to have disagreeing or even factually wrong opinions on technical matters. ChrisA