Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 08:58:03 +1000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de XO97HTjW7wFMXvXpJuV3oQXTLQ0Sp8zQksry0Y1OJKrQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:question': 0.08; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'messing': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'things.': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'eval': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'stuff,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'referring': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'decide': 0.23; 'split': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'example': 0.26; 'least': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'to?': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; "skip:' 10": 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'getting': 0.33; 'point': 0.33; 'surprised': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'your': 0.60; 'show': 0.62; 'designers': 0.72; 'betray': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'subject:want': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=duclryLYWnSm+eoAJ6kKc9gdHPw2wzXxBiZpMy6/JXQ=; b=lTGraG4xNcfMpt3luT9fD6tgYBMZ+ygF6wrEd/6ZF2ceJuSn48UlWNleQJuGo4vZ1K D6Rej8qg2RKRarstaPoOKyuhcKJXHnAeifs4ixhiyW8q/I/ftpmmpjCc7t4uGQ83k6Ny eGxMPdd3fs0nG3Ez0KfkDs0kRB5nVvLkiea3dZpz4phutyb9ppdR9St9kZF/jgIAKNnC HVw+lx2Q1IAwvC2TotcR0aHUxP1Ixn/KhJ8N04IikQi3g22kdlKalSB2bsIzrHgIU6Gs dxFtbkufCqmxDNLxvWtLE8wGeg86DwrTH7cavKi7/jAK6K2N+ylLbz3I7SRAjxg6gLoN rsCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=duclryLYWnSm+eoAJ6kKc9gdHPw2wzXxBiZpMy6/JXQ=; b=luc3P60sKmmuiDOVRD0FF58VdV+kY0f9gyzD4sjbGKLEr+lePeMWcIjLZKORknyCwI r1qelyGVIdnBAvhqFyqleXtxHRGPoD2cVChJn8TEfDdiuLwOG/KNyvASz6NK2rsrQFLU 8tl5hzIql9WYdscPIz43pVxOw3uvanL42aDqIWYojqdjqln9n1JDhkq6mmmHqGtLeJVa As+9bonjsBp+gHOM1MsDm3VPue35A5mefRh4UR8Wen/ZTfCr9pznptUl/3FqYkS78Fkh 8wVevOjXkvFt83TjKk+YLS4TzD0hj+vRh0TruDrWEuc/Uje2JiJB4W1mgFx3qQNi4wsa 0npg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK9Hu48damxi3fABzoP1rFFP6RIZhss3r834F68O0Jnzrx/9vX5+3dO3YHq60JU2DbXsQY9E1vK+CRu4A== X-Received: by 10.50.124.36 with SMTP id mf4mr15256392igb.92.1460329083909; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106800 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Fillmore wrote: > the question is: at which point did the language designers decide to betray > the > "path of least surprise" principle and create a 'discontinuity' in the > language? > Open to the idea that I am getting something fundamentally wrong. I'm new to > Python... Can you please simplify your example and show what the discontinuity is you're referring to? You keep messing with eval and split and stuff, and then looking at the types of things. Which part are you surprised at? ChrisA