Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.09; 'ide': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'decent': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'tool.': 0.16; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; '(such': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'environment': 0.29; 'wright': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; 'primary': 0.30; 'bought': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'text': 0.34; 'ben': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'editor': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'benefit': 0.70; 'powdered': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'water,': 0.84; 'windows)': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 09:46:20 +1100 References: <50e186a2$0$6951$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rasputin.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xBD41714B X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 9CFE 12B0 791A 4267 887F 520C B7AC 2E51 BD41 714B X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AsDbcpwfEDjCJ1LECxnzIQN/+zU= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356994002 news.xs4all.nl 6852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52933 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35859 Hans Mulder writes: > Don't bother: Python comes with a free IDE named IDLE. And any decent Unix-alike (most OSen apart from Windows) comes with its own IDE: the shell, a good text editor (Vim or Emacs being the primary candidates), and a terminal multiplexor (such as ‘tmux’ or GNU Screen). Learning to use that development environment will benefit you far more than any language-specific tool. -- \ “I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to add.” | `\ —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney