Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'syntax': 0.03; 'argument': 0.04; 'skip:` 10': 0.05; 'arguments': 0.07; 'arguments,': 0.09; 'expected.': 0.09; 'inherited': 0.09; 'it;': 0.09; 'itself,': 0.09; 'sake': 0.09; 'subclass': 0.09; 'typeerror:': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.10; 'def': 0.10; 'itself.': 0.11; 'dec': 0.15; '*expression*': 0.16; 'here"': 0.16; 'instantiates': 0.16; 'output?': 0.16; 'parentheses': 0.16; 'statement;': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'textually': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'instance': 0.17; 'skip:` 20': 0.17; 'define': 0.20; 'parameters': 0.20; 'bit': 0.21; 'error.': 0.21; '"",': 0.22; 'cheers,': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '(most': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; '>>>>': 0.29; 'arguments.': 0.29; 'contrast,': 0.29; 'declared': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'worked': 0.30; 'function': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'print': 0.32; 'traceback': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'wrong': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; '(i.e.': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'passed': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'takes': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; '30,': 0.62; 'note:': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; 'gave': 0.65; 'therefore': 0.65; 'sender:addr:chris': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rebertia.com; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hlo2I9x1lfIXXMBIJnlH9HoQOOGX7yLiyQ3fny31z5s=; b=MN7tVBVPKQvC0T6gatkEPFSP8QvgbOEeBwFenP5jqzEq9pzVRbrWqc6kaTDg5H3VOS L1EZkoGz1iJklqSKYyMHNAICuXlZYPszln0/euueRladjo+tvU4vIBc9BrisH2hs1QmZ LVCJjlapb+tnGw/JrqDt6u9Ywx/l7MbHHXqC0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=hlo2I9x1lfIXXMBIJnlH9HoQOOGX7yLiyQ3fny31z5s=; b=Tz0SbMYkbF3BBFvaXS2Vpilo+G027KHzFGIOZKRn4E8XZA7NrVEA73duRd+Tm22tqV CdOltNsaW/lvayDAa1HcTDbfs2Cj50BhPvPp9lwDgpB3B2EwmYVC6oDmAIjl2fe1tfgw dqE0G30QJHnXLbn9mOCGsQIOlLTuEW1DtiscriQQTut9E/wFE+JqvZiVoHXjHYC6NqGM UtzR0kJ9zOlyWYUwkmi35d+MmbiZs3qsF4MQJxCSLghmhXeK6xlqguRxJaxD1f3TeMOu hVkBYmR9t4+pXUT1SSOb3sXA2hgTcBIeI72hH0A4Xo5+flJ66QzkuThFUyllm2SeshPX af4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chris@rebertia.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 23:27:39 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nxNFix4YxrSN5MEcY6A12QYpwxw Subject: Re: father class name From: Chris Rebert To: contro opinion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnyPaGNqMHhq8KiWtHZVLoNEF7xNHevEz+zzQ4JKjUdiT6oZeSFx2evv6zrIq78NOH0/DJ1 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1356938863 news.xs4all.nl 6875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50699 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:35841 On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:18 PM, contro opinion wrote: > here is my haha class > class haha(object): > def theprint(self): > print "i am here" > >>>> haha().theprint() > i am here >>>> haha(object).theprint() > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > TypeError: object.__new__() takes no parameters > > why haha(object).theprint() get wrong output? The fact that `haha(object)` is textually part of the *declaration* `class haha(object):` has no bearing on how one instantiates an instance of the class `haha`. In the `class` statement, `haha` is being declared to be a subclass of class `object` (that's what it means for `object` to be in the parentheses after the class name in a `class` statement; the syntax is "class ():"). In the first part of the *expression* `haha().theprint()`, you are using the function-call operator on the `haha` class itself, which has the effect of instantiating it; since you gave no arguments in the function call, haha's initializer (i.e. its __init__() method) was given no arguments. Since you didn't define an __init__() method for haha, haha inherited the default __init__() method from class `object`, which takes no arguments, so your call was fine and worked as expected. By contrast, in the first part of the *expression* `haha(object).theprint()`, you passed an argument (namely, `object`). Since __init__() wasn't expecting any arguments whatsoever, you therefore got an error. The parentheses in a `class` statement do NOT signify a function call; they are part of the syntax of the `class` statement itself. Cheers, Chris -- Note: I'm oversimplifying things a bit for the sake of understandability.